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* [Qemu-devel] QEMU commit 04bf2526ce breaks use of xen-mapcache
@ 2017-07-25 17:13 Anthony PERARD
  2017-07-25 17:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Anthony PERARD @ 2017-07-25 17:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefano Stabellini; +Cc: xen-devel, qemu-devel, Paolo Bonzini

Hi,

Commits 04bf2526ce (exec: use qemu_ram_ptr_length to access guest ram)
start using qemu_ram_ptr_length() instead of qemu_map_ram_ptr().
That result in calling xen_map_cache() with lock=true, but this mapping
is never invalidated.
So QEMU use more and more RAM until it stop working for a reason or an
other. (crash if host have little RAM or stop emulating but no crash)

I don't know if calling xen_invalidate_map_cache_entry() in
address_space_read_continue() and address_space_write_continue() is the
right answer.  Is there something better to do ?

(A good way to reproduce: Install Windows, so without pv driver.)

Thanks,

-- 
Anthony PERARD

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* Re: [Qemu-devel] QEMU commit 04bf2526ce breaks use of xen-mapcache
  2017-07-25 17:13 [Qemu-devel] QEMU commit 04bf2526ce breaks use of xen-mapcache Anthony PERARD
@ 2017-07-25 17:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
  2017-07-25 18:08   ` Stefano Stabellini
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2017-07-25 17:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Anthony PERARD; +Cc: Stefano Stabellini, xen-devel, qemu-devel

> Hi,
> 
> Commits 04bf2526ce (exec: use qemu_ram_ptr_length to access guest ram)
> start using qemu_ram_ptr_length() instead of qemu_map_ram_ptr().
> That result in calling xen_map_cache() with lock=true, but this mapping
> is never invalidated.
> So QEMU use more and more RAM until it stop working for a reason or an
> other. (crash if host have little RAM or stop emulating but no crash)
> 
> I don't know if calling xen_invalidate_map_cache_entry() in
> address_space_read_continue() and address_space_write_continue() is the
> right answer.  Is there something better to do ?

I think it's correct for dma to be true... maybe add a lock argument to
qemu_ram_ptr_length, so that make address_space_{read,write}_continue can
pass 0 and everyone else passes 1?

Paolo

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [Qemu-devel] QEMU commit 04bf2526ce breaks use of xen-mapcache
  2017-07-25 17:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
@ 2017-07-25 18:08   ` Stefano Stabellini
  2017-07-25 18:45     ` Paolo Bonzini
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Stefano Stabellini @ 2017-07-25 18:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paolo Bonzini; +Cc: Anthony PERARD, Stefano Stabellini, xen-devel, qemu-devel

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Commits 04bf2526ce (exec: use qemu_ram_ptr_length to access guest ram)
> > start using qemu_ram_ptr_length() instead of qemu_map_ram_ptr().
> > That result in calling xen_map_cache() with lock=true, but this mapping
> > is never invalidated.
> > So QEMU use more and more RAM until it stop working for a reason or an
> > other. (crash if host have little RAM or stop emulating but no crash)
> > 
> > I don't know if calling xen_invalidate_map_cache_entry() in
> > address_space_read_continue() and address_space_write_continue() is the
> > right answer.  Is there something better to do ?
> 
> I think it's correct for dma to be true... maybe add a lock argument to
> qemu_ram_ptr_length, so that make address_space_{read,write}_continue can
> pass 0 and everyone else passes 1?

I think that is a great suggestion. That way, the difference between
locked mappings and unlocked mappings would be explicit, rather than
relying on callers to use qemu_map_ram_ptr for unlocked mappings and
qemu_ram_ptr_length for locked mappings. And there aren't that many
callers of qemu_ram_ptr_length, so adding a parameter wouldn't be an
issue.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [Qemu-devel] QEMU commit 04bf2526ce breaks use of xen-mapcache
  2017-07-25 18:08   ` Stefano Stabellini
@ 2017-07-25 18:45     ` Paolo Bonzini
  2017-07-25 19:04       ` Stefano Stabellini
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2017-07-25 18:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefano Stabellini; +Cc: Anthony PERARD, xen-devel, qemu-devel



----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>
> To: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
> Cc: "Anthony PERARD" <anthony.perard@citrix.com>, "Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
> xen-devel@lists.xen.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 8:08:21 PM
> Subject: Re: QEMU commit 04bf2526ce breaks use of xen-mapcache
> 
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Commits 04bf2526ce (exec: use qemu_ram_ptr_length to access guest ram)
> > > start using qemu_ram_ptr_length() instead of qemu_map_ram_ptr().
> > > That result in calling xen_map_cache() with lock=true, but this mapping
> > > is never invalidated.
> > > So QEMU use more and more RAM until it stop working for a reason or an
> > > other. (crash if host have little RAM or stop emulating but no crash)
> > > 
> > > I don't know if calling xen_invalidate_map_cache_entry() in
> > > address_space_read_continue() and address_space_write_continue() is the
> > > right answer.  Is there something better to do ?
> > 
> > I think it's correct for dma to be true... maybe add a lock argument to
> > qemu_ram_ptr_length, so that make address_space_{read,write}_continue can
> > pass 0 and everyone else passes 1?
> 
> I think that is a great suggestion. That way, the difference between
> locked mappings and unlocked mappings would be explicit, rather than
> relying on callers to use qemu_map_ram_ptr for unlocked mappings and
> qemu_ram_ptr_length for locked mappings. And there aren't that many
> callers of qemu_ram_ptr_length, so adding a parameter wouldn't be an
> issue.

Thanks---however, after re-reading xen-mapcache.c, dma needs to be false
for unlocked mappings.

Paolo

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [Qemu-devel] QEMU commit 04bf2526ce breaks use of xen-mapcache
  2017-07-25 18:45     ` Paolo Bonzini
@ 2017-07-25 19:04       ` Stefano Stabellini
  2017-07-25 19:42         ` Paolo Bonzini
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Stefano Stabellini @ 2017-07-25 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paolo Bonzini; +Cc: Stefano Stabellini, Anthony PERARD, xen-devel, qemu-devel

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>
> > To: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
> > Cc: "Anthony PERARD" <anthony.perard@citrix.com>, "Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
> > xen-devel@lists.xen.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 8:08:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: QEMU commit 04bf2526ce breaks use of xen-mapcache
> > 
> > On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > Commits 04bf2526ce (exec: use qemu_ram_ptr_length to access guest ram)
> > > > start using qemu_ram_ptr_length() instead of qemu_map_ram_ptr().
> > > > That result in calling xen_map_cache() with lock=true, but this mapping
> > > > is never invalidated.
> > > > So QEMU use more and more RAM until it stop working for a reason or an
> > > > other. (crash if host have little RAM or stop emulating but no crash)
> > > > 
> > > > I don't know if calling xen_invalidate_map_cache_entry() in
> > > > address_space_read_continue() and address_space_write_continue() is the
> > > > right answer.  Is there something better to do ?
> > > 
> > > I think it's correct for dma to be true... maybe add a lock argument to
> > > qemu_ram_ptr_length, so that make address_space_{read,write}_continue can
> > > pass 0 and everyone else passes 1?
> > 
> > I think that is a great suggestion. That way, the difference between
> > locked mappings and unlocked mappings would be explicit, rather than
> > relying on callers to use qemu_map_ram_ptr for unlocked mappings and
> > qemu_ram_ptr_length for locked mappings. And there aren't that many
> > callers of qemu_ram_ptr_length, so adding a parameter wouldn't be an
> > issue.
> 
> Thanks---however, after re-reading xen-mapcache.c, dma needs to be false
> for unlocked mappings.

If there is a DMA operation already in progress, it means that we'll
already have a locked mapping for it.

When address_space_write_continue is called, which in turn would call
qemu_map_ram_ptr, or qemu_ram_ptr_length(unlocked), if the start and
size of the requested mapping matches the one of the previously created
locked mapping, then a pointer to the locked mapping will be returned.

If they don't match, a new unlocked mapping will be created and a
pointer to it will be returned. (Arguably the algorithm could be
improved so that a new mapping is not created if the address and size
are contained within the locked mapping. This is a missing optimization
today.)

It doesn't matter if a new unlocked mapping is created, or if the locked
mapping is returned, because the pointer returned by
qemu_ram_ptr_length(unlocked) is only used to do the memcpy, and never
again. So I don't think this is a problem.

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* Re: [Qemu-devel] QEMU commit 04bf2526ce breaks use of xen-mapcache
  2017-07-25 19:04       ` Stefano Stabellini
@ 2017-07-25 19:42         ` Paolo Bonzini
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2017-07-25 19:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefano Stabellini; +Cc: Anthony PERARD, xen-devel, qemu-devel


> > Thanks---however, after re-reading xen-mapcache.c, dma needs to be false
> > for unlocked mappings.
> 
> If there is a DMA operation already in progress, it means that we'll
> already have a locked mapping for it.

Yes, I only wanted to say that qemu_ram_ptr_length should pass dma=false
when called by address_space_*_continue (i.e. with locked=false).

Paolo

> When address_space_write_continue is called, which in turn would call
> qemu_map_ram_ptr, or qemu_ram_ptr_length(unlocked), if the start and
> size of the requested mapping matches the one of the previously created
> locked mapping, then a pointer to the locked mapping will be returned.
> 
> If they don't match, a new unlocked mapping will be created and a
> pointer to it will be returned. (Arguably the algorithm could be
> improved so that a new mapping is not created if the address and size
> are contained within the locked mapping. This is a missing optimization
> today.)
> 
> It doesn't matter if a new unlocked mapping is created, or if the locked
> mapping is returned, because the pointer returned by
> qemu_ram_ptr_length(unlocked) is only used to do the memcpy, and never
> again. So I don't think this is a problem.
> 

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