From: Christian Schoenebeck <qemu_oss@crudebyte.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: "P J P" <ppandit@redhat.com>,
"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
"Cornelia Huck" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
"Michael Roth" <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"Greg Kurz" <groug@kaod.org>,
"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] MAINTAINERS: introduce cve or security quotient field
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:45:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3491260.5YPxQhmjAg@silver> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.YSQ.7.78.906.2007161428570.950384@xnncv>
On Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2020 11:21:55 CEST P J P wrote:
> +-- On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote --+
>
> | > Failing to start (with a message that explains why) if one of the
> | > command
> | > line options is not covered by a specified security policy is not
> | > unreasonable (after all, we fail to start for other cases of
> | > incompatible
> | > command line options as well.)
>
> Yes, that's right.
>
> | > However, we also need to cover dynamically-added devices. Aborting seems
> | > very bad there, just failing to add the device seems like what we'd
> | > want.
> |
> | Yep, aborting is simply not an option for the inner code. It all has to
> | propagate to a proper Error **errp object. The ultimate entry-point at the
> | CLI vs QMP then decides whether to turn the error into an abort or feed
> | back to the client app.
>
> True, handling dynamic devices is tricky.
>
> Though it seems kind of uniform workflow to check for '--security' flag at
> options parsing OR while handling dynamic devices at run time; It is a huge
> task to cover all options/use-cases for all QEMU emulators across various
> architectures.
My concern here is that just distinguishing between either 'low' or 'high' is
a far too rough classification.
In our preceding communication regarding 9pfs, I made clear that a) we do care
about security relevant 9pfs issues, and only b) the avarage use cases (as far
we know) for 9pfs are above a certain trust level.
However b) does not imply 9pfs being 'unsafe', nor that we want users to
refrain using it in a security relevant environment. So 9pfs would actually be
somewhere in between.
Best regards,
Christian Schoenebeck
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-07-16 9:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-07-14 8:36 [PATCH 0/1] MAINTAINERS: add security quotient field P J P
2020-07-14 8:36 ` [PATCH 1/1] MAINTAINERS: introduce cve or " P J P
2020-07-14 9:42 ` Peter Maydell
2020-07-14 9:52 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-14 10:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-07-14 10:22 ` Peter Maydell
2020-07-14 11:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-07-14 13:10 ` P J P
2020-07-16 6:55 ` Cornelia Huck
2020-07-16 8:36 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-16 9:21 ` P J P
2020-07-16 9:39 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-16 9:45 ` Christian Schoenebeck [this message]
2020-07-16 10:01 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-16 12:22 ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-07-16 12:54 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-14 13:30 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-14 13:48 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-07-14 13:56 ` Thomas Huth
2020-07-14 15:04 ` Christian Schoenebeck
2020-07-14 14:02 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-14 10:18 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-07-14 11:51 ` Cornelia Huck
2020-07-16 8:56 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-07-16 9:44 ` P J P
2020-07-16 10:09 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-07-16 10:43 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-07-14 9:46 ` [PATCH 0/1] MAINTAINERS: add " Michael S. Tsirkin
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