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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kwolf@redhat.com, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
	"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/6] hw/i386/i386: Stop auto-creating lsi53c895a SCSI HBAs
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:17:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3512807d-d04e-50fa-9fcf-d1d5ba8ac350@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877f5l1tak.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>



On 23/01/2017 20:16, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>                                                      Could we change
>> those messages to errors
> 
> Fine with me, but when it comes to arguing for backward compatibility of
> our byzantine command line, I'm kind of like a lethargic public defender
> with an overly deep relationship to Bourbon.  "Your honor, sure capital
> punishment is called for?  Yes?  Okay then."
> 
> I vaguely recall discussing the topic with Peter (cc'ed).  If memory
> serves, one concern was breaking usage of -device with -drive lacking
> if=...  Works fine (no warning) with machines that don't pick up drives
> with their default block interface type, i.e. most of them.  But PATCH 3
> changes their default to if=none, so that usage wouldn't actually break.

I think that tips the scale in favor of having errors.

> What would break is -device with -drive if=T, where T is not none and
> not picked up by the board.  Such usage is certainly questionable[*],
> but it's questionable enough for us to break it?
> 
>>                          and then drop PC if=scsi support altogether?
> 
> Different backward compatibility question: here we break usage of
> if=scsi with PC machine types.  Legacy way to do things, but it's
> documented in qemu.1.  Are we happy to break it?

That usage is wrong after this patch, since it mentions
qemu-system-i386.  So it's documented, but almost useless and the
example is not exactly correct.  Let's deprecate it in 2.9 and remove in
2.10.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-24 11:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-23  9:48 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] More sensible default for -drive interface type Markus Armbruster
2017-01-23  9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] hw: Default -drive to if=ide explicitly where it works Markus Armbruster
2017-01-23  9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/6] hw/arm/cubieboard hw/arm/xlnx-ep108: Fix units_per_default_bus Markus Armbruster
2017-01-23  9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] hw: Default -drive to if=none instead of ide when ide cannot work Markus Armbruster
2017-01-23 12:24   ` Artyom Tarasenko
2017-01-23  9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/6] hw: Default -drive to if=none instead of scsi when scsi " Markus Armbruster
2017-01-23  9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/6] hw/arm/highbank: Default -drive to if=ide instead of if=scsi Markus Armbruster
2017-01-23  9:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/6] hw/i386/i386: Stop auto-creating lsi53c895a SCSI HBAs Markus Armbruster
2017-01-23 16:48   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-23 19:16     ` Markus Armbruster
2017-01-24 11:17       ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2017-01-24 12:56         ` Markus Armbruster
2017-01-24 13:01           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-24 17:20             ` Markus Armbruster
2017-01-24 17:24               ` Peter Maydell
2017-01-24 17:40                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-01-24 17:58                   ` Peter Maydell
2017-01-24 18:43                     ` Markus Armbruster
2017-01-25 16:45           ` Markus Armbruster

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