* Re: QEMU emulating ARM Neoverse N1 unexpectectly emulates `retaa`
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@ 2025-06-16 5:09 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-06-18 1:44 ` Richard Henderson
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From: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé @ 2025-06-16 5:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: root, qemu-discuss; +Cc: QEMU Developers, qemu-arm
Hi Solomon,
Cc'ing the qemu-arm@ list.
On 14/6/25 06:51, root@wjsota.com wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Is `qemu-aarch64 -cpu neoverse-n1` supposed to emulate the `retaa` instruction?
>
> I have a binary called `main_pac` compiled from https://learn.arm.com/learning-paths/servers-and-cloud-computing/pac/example/ .
>
> The compiling command is `aarch64-linux-gnu-gcc -march=armv8.5-a -fPIC -pedantic -Wall -Wextra -ggdb3 -O0 -mbranch-protection=standard -fno-stack-protector -fPIE -static main.c -o main_pac`. The binary includes the `paciasp` and `retaa` instructions associated with ARM PAC.
>
> ```
> (gdb) disas main
> Dump of assembler code for function main:
> 0x0000000000400858 <+0>: paciasp
> 0x000000000040085c <+4>: stp x29, x30, [sp, #-32]!
> […]
> 0x0000000000400898 <+64>: ldp x29, x30, [sp], #32
> 0x000000000040089c <+68>: retaa
> End of assembler dump.
> (gdb) quit
> ```
>
> When emulated using `qemu-aarch64 -cpu neoverse-n1` , the program completes without issues.
> ```
> user@dell-op7020:~/learning/arm_learning_path_pac$ qemu-aarch64 -cpu neoverse-n1 main_pac test
> Hello World!
> user@dell-op7020:~/learning/arm_learning_path_pac$
> ```
>
> This is the case for two versions I tested:
> - v9.2.1 (Debian 1:9.2.1+ds-1ubuntu5)
> - v10.0.50 (v10.0.0-1610-gd9ce74873a)
>
>
> The expected behavior is for an Illegal Instruction exception to occur. Citing the Arm A-profile A64 Instruction Set Architect Version 2025-03, the `retaa` instruction should return an Undefined Instruction error when the PAC feature is not implemented.
> ```
> if !IsFeatureImplemented(FEAT_PAuth) then EndOfDecode(Decode_UNDEF);
> ```
>
> The same binary was run on AWS’s t4g.nano running Neoverse N1. It got the illegal instruction exception, as expected
> ```
> Core was generated by `./main_pac test'.
> Program terminated with signal SIGILL, Illegal instruction.
> #0 0x00000000004007d4 in func1 (s=0xffffe2446636 "test") at main.c:9
> 9 }
> (gdb) x/i $pc
> => 0x4007d4 <func1+36>: retaa
> (gdb) quit
> ```
>
> Is the emulation of Neoverse N1 behavior correct?
>
> Thank you
> Cheers,
> Solomon
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* Re: QEMU emulating ARM Neoverse N1 unexpectectly emulates `retaa`
2025-06-16 5:09 ` QEMU emulating ARM Neoverse N1 unexpectectly emulates `retaa` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
@ 2025-06-18 1:44 ` Richard Henderson
0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Richard Henderson @ 2025-06-18 1:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé, root, qemu-discuss; +Cc: QEMU Developers, qemu-arm
On 6/15/25 22:09, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> Hi Solomon,
>
> Cc'ing the qemu-arm@ list.
>
> On 14/6/25 06:51, root@wjsota.com wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> Is `qemu-aarch64 -cpu neoverse-n1` supposed to emulate the `retaa` instruction?
>>
>> I have a binary called `main_pac` compiled from https://learn.arm.com/learning-paths/
>> servers-and-cloud-computing/pac/example/ .
>>
>> The compiling command is `aarch64-linux-gnu-gcc -march=armv8.5-a -fPIC -pedantic -Wall -
>> Wextra -ggdb3 -O0 -mbranch-protection=standard -fno-stack-protector -fPIE -static main.c
>> -o main_pac`. The binary includes the `paciasp` and `retaa` instructions associated with
>> ARM PAC.
>>
>> ```
>> (gdb) disas main
>> Dump of assembler code for function main:
>> 0x0000000000400858 <+0>: paciasp
>> 0x000000000040085c <+4>: stp x29, x30, [sp, #-32]!
>> […]
>> 0x0000000000400898 <+64>: ldp x29, x30, [sp], #32
>> 0x000000000040089c <+68>: retaa
>> End of assembler dump.
>> (gdb) quit
>> ```
>>
>> When emulated using `qemu-aarch64 -cpu neoverse-n1` , the program completes without issues.
>> ```
>> user@dell-op7020:~/learning/arm_learning_path_pac$ qemu-aarch64 -cpu neoverse-n1
>> main_pac test
>> Hello World!
>> user@dell-op7020:~/learning/arm_learning_path_pac$
>> ```
>>
>> This is the case for two versions I tested:
>> - v9.2.1 (Debian 1:9.2.1+ds-1ubuntu5)
>> - v10.0.50 (v10.0.0-1610-gd9ce74873a)
>>
>>
>> The expected behavior is for an Illegal Instruction exception to occur. Citing the Arm
>> A-profile A64 Instruction Set Architect Version 2025-03, the `retaa` instruction should
>> return an Undefined Instruction error when the PAC feature is not implemented.
>> ```
>> if !IsFeatureImplemented(FEAT_PAuth) then EndOfDecode(Decode_UNDEF);
Yes, trans_RETA() is missing the pauth check.
r~
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