From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Hanna Czenczek <hreitz@redhat.com>, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>,
John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH for-8.0] ide: Fix manual in-flight count for TRIM BH
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 14:59:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3e695f64-13bb-1311-6cd6-09bffc312873@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7ca18cb4-eeb1-4cba-feea-90f28fb9c2fc@redhat.com>
On 3/9/23 13:31, Hanna Czenczek wrote:
> On 09.03.23 13:08, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 1:05 PM Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> I think having to do this is problematic, because the blk_drain should
>>> leave no pending operation.
>>>
>>> Here it seems okay because you do it in a controlled situation, but the
>>> main thread can also issue blk_drain(), or worse bdrv_drained_begin(),
>>> and there would be pending I/O operations when it returns.
>
> Not really. We would stop in the middle of a trim that processes a list
> of discard requests. So I see it more like stopping in the middle of
> anything that processes guest requests. Once drain ends, we continue
> processing them, and that’s not exactly pending I/O.
>
> There is a pending object in s->bus->dma->aiocb on the IDE side, so
> there is a pending DMA operation, but naïvely, I don’t see that as a
> problem.
What about the bdrv_drain_all() when a VM stops, would the guest
continue to access memory and disks after bdrv_drain() return?
Migration could also be a problem, because the partial TRIM would not be
recorded in the s->bus->error_status field of IDEState (no surprise
there, it's not an error). Also, errors happening after bdrv_drain()
might not be migrated correctly.
> Or the issue is generally that IDE uses dma_* functions, which might
> cause I/O functions to be run from new BHs (I guess through
> reschedule_dma()?).
Ah, you mean that you can have pending I/O operations while
blk->in_flight is zero? That would be a problem indeed. We already
have BlockDevOps for ide-cd and ide-hd, should we add a .drained_poll
callback there?
>> Hmm, what about making blk_aio_prwv non-static and calling
>> bdrv_co_pdiscard directly from IDE?
>
> You mean transforming ide_issue_trim_cb() into an iterative coroutine
> (instead of being recursive and using AIO) and invoking it via
> blk_aio_prwv()?
>
> It doesn’t feel right to call a bdrv_* function directly from a user
> external to the core block layer, so in this case I’d rather fall back
> to Fiona’s idea of invoking all discards concurrently.
Yeah, honestly it doesn't feel very much right to me either.
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-09 13:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-09 11:44 [PATCH for-8.0] ide: Fix manual in-flight count for TRIM BH Hanna Czenczek
2023-03-09 12:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-03-09 12:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-03-09 12:31 ` Hanna Czenczek
2023-03-09 13:59 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2023-03-09 17:46 ` Kevin Wolf
2023-03-10 13:05 ` Fiona Ebner
2023-03-10 14:25 ` Kevin Wolf
2023-03-10 15:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-03-13 12:29 ` Fiona Ebner
2023-03-13 13:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-03-13 16:32 ` Kevin Wolf
2023-03-14 9:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
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