From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35262) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eX93H-0005Cu-Au for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2018 12:11:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eX92u-0002f6-Ms for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2018 12:11:35 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:40144) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eX92u-0002eE-Ep for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 04 Jan 2018 12:11:12 -0500 References: <20180104140930.7hbtnen3lw7epmrh@var.youpi.perso.aquilenet.fr> <20180104141524.m5xy66jsn2hiajwl@var.youpi.perso.aquilenet.fr> <20180104142101.rivje5qn5dasb6jw@var.youpi.perso.aquilenet.fr> <20180104152402.fv52umjmlb2g22wc@var.youpi.perso.aquilenet.fr> <20180104153219.wsxtkzuznu2iwra7@var.youpi.perso.aquilenet.fr> <9b392599-a318-90c5-daa8-89ade40c64e5@redhat.com> <20180104155640.6rznzu4koy354pyn@var.youpi.perso.aquilenet.fr> From: Paolo Bonzini Message-ID: <4055e106-b24f-09b5-29cd-a4927ecad433@redhat.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 18:11:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180104155640.6rznzu4koy354pyn@var.youpi.perso.aquilenet.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] usb: Remove legacy -usbdevice option List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Samuel Thibault Cc: Thomas Huth , Peter Maydell , kraxel@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org On 04/01/2018 16:56, Samuel Thibault wrote: >> However, adding magic to "-device usb-braille" that creates both a >> front-end and a back-end is completely the opposite of sane... > Well, this is also what happens with -device usb-mouse, usb-kbd etc.: > they also plug with keyboard & mouse pipes of the qemu graphical > frontend. braille is just the same vein for the user. No, they don't create a new UI object magically that wasn't there before. They just let you add a device, e.g. a USB tablet, that listens on an _existing_ UI (GTK+ or SDL or similar). Paolo