From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DgOXw-0001EY-Qx for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:02:17 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DgOXq-0001AI-AE for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:02:12 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DgOXp-00017A-G7 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:02:09 -0400 Received: from [64.233.170.200] (helo=rproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DgORV-0002yM-Ho for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 10:55:37 -0400 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so103805rnf for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <41e41e7a050609075539c95278@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:55:26 +0200 From: Hetz Ben Hamo Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Mac OS X at native speed... In-Reply-To: <270BBED0-CA7F-43EA-8448-0C9804E45674@claunia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <42A49E6F.7030501@gmx.de> <41e41e7a050606152194853d3@mail.gmail.com> <270BBED0-CA7F-43EA-8448-0C9804E45674@claunia.com> Reply-To: Hetz Ben Hamo , qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Natalia Portillo Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org Not exactly. XpostFacto let you install OS X on macs with PPC chips (G3 as minimum), not on Intel based PC's. Apple will *not* let users install OS-X/ X86 on your PC. Thats the official word from Phil Schiller, Vice president of worldwide marketting at Apple. So, I'm pretty sure Apple will use some tricks to not-allow users to install OS-X/X86 on non-apple X86 based machines by using some tricks (different BIOS, additional ROM, or some heavy modifications to some chipset). Sure, Darwin can run on any X86 machine, but it's not going to be easy running OS-X/X86 that easily.. Hetz On 6/9/05, Natalia Portillo wrote: > Apple will use standard PC architecture: hardware, memory map, ROM > (the BIOS), etc. > Apple will remain the kernel as Open Source. >=20 > Just search XPostFacto. > Was easy to make OS X work in machines not officially supported, and > so will be. >=20 > El 06/06/2005, a las 23:21, Hetz Ben Hamo escribi=F3: >=20 > > Not exactly... > > > > As many Apple fans can tell you, apple just love to stick their own > > ROM in there machines (I think it's called open firmware these days). > > Since your own PC doesn't have this ROM (and I imagine they'll add > > couple of tricks more to the package) - you won't be able even to > > install OS X on an avrage PC you buy on the market, unless it came > > from Apple. > > > > Compiling QEMU under OS-X/Pentium machine, that could be another story > > with more more success... > > > > Thanks, > > Hetz > > > > On 6/6/05, Oliver Gerlich wrote: > > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Could this: > >> http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/05/06/06/1752234.shtml? > >> tid=3D118&tid=3D179&tid=3D3 > >> help to run Mac OS X at near-native speed on x86? I'd really like > >> to try > >> OS X myself, but money-wise Qemu will most likely be the only way > >> for me... > >> So maybe this switch to x86 could eliminate any byte ordering > >> slowdowns > >> and make it run as fast as x86-on-x86? > >> > >> Curious about comments from insiders, > >> Oliver Gerlich > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) > >> > >> iD8DBQFCpJ5tTFOM6DcNJ6cRAmPqAJ4vpF8B8KETNVd3hPhC6MEpa13DiQCgmM4t > >> uNq6QoDKyFyMiZia3hYdllI=3D > >> =3DVOCw > >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Qemu-devel mailing list > >> Qemu-devel@nongnu.org > >> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel > >> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Qemu-devel mailing list > > Qemu-devel@nongnu.org > > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel > > >=20 >