[Qemu-devel] We want to example qemu and the accel-module in our distribution.

[Qemu-devel] We want to example qemu and the accel-module in our distribution.

[Xuqing Kuang]

Dear qemu developers.

We are a Linux distributer called Red Flag Software from China.
We want to redistribute qemu + accelerator module built-in in our
system called Red Flag Server System.

We got a project need Windows XP running as a virtual machine on our system.
But Xen can't support other OS except Linux and NetBSD right now。

We checked bochs, vmware and qemu.
Bochs need speed up and XP support, and Vmware isn't free software and
we don't want to build it into our system.

Qemu with Accelerator Module works really fine on our system.

So, We need your authorized for commercial use if we done the project.

Thank you for your hard works.

---------------------------------------------------
Xuqing Kuang（xqkuang@redflag-linux.com）
Red Flag Linux Server Development Team

www.redflag-linux.com
www.asianux.com

Re: [Qemu-devel] We want to example qemu and the accel-module in our distribution.

[hugang]

On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 11:14:59AM +0800, Xuqing Kuang wrote:
> Dear qemu developers.
> 
> We are a Linux distributer called Red Flag Software from China.
> We want to redistribute qemu + accelerator module built-in in our
> system called Red Flag Server System.
> 
> We got a project need Windows XP running as a virtual machine on our system.
> But Xen can't support other OS except Linux and NetBSD right now^[$B!#^[(B
> 
> We checked bochs, vmware and qemu.
> Bochs need speed up and XP support, and Vmware isn't free software and
> we don't want to build it into our system.
> 
> Qemu with Accelerator Module works really fine on our system.
> 
> So, We need your authorized for commercial use if we done the project.
> 
> Thank you for your hard works.

Why not choose QEMU + QVM86, The QVM86 do same thing with accelerator
module, but it is Open Source Project.

https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/qvm86/

qvm86 is a kernel module to provide x86 virtualisation capabilities for
the qemu emulator. Virtualisation allows "emulated" code to be run natively 
on the host cpu, using the CPU protection mechanisms to intercept and emulate 
priveleged events.

But I think you'd better have donation some money to QVM86 and QEMU
project.

I'm also in china. :)

-- 
Hu Gang       .-.
              /v\
             // \\ 
Linux User  /(   )\  [204016]
GPG Key ID   ^^-^^   http://soulinfo.com/~hugang/hugang.asc

Re: [Qemu-devel] We want to example qemu and the accel-module in ourdistribution.

[jeebs]

>Why not choose QEMU + QVM86, The QVM86 do same thing with accelerator
>module, but it is Open Source Project.

Because at the moment, qvm86 doesn't work well.  Still has bugs and 
limitations.  And it actually seems to be *slower* than qemu without it.  Or 
at least not much faster.

That's based on the only Windows cvs build that had qvm86 with it.  (Still 
available from the club-internet.fr Win daily build mirror.)

I assume the linux build behaves the same, since it is based on the same 
core routines and techniques.  That seems to be the impression I get from 
the qemu users forum, anyway.


I'm sure it could be significantly improved, but at the moment there are 
only a couple people working occasionally on it.  So it's not something you 
can depend on being vastly improved on in the next few weeks.  (To be 
honest, I suspect that the qvm86 techniques didn't work as well as the 
author originally expected / hoped.  Just my feeling.)

Re: [Qemu-devel] We want to example qemu and the accel-module in our distribution.

[Mike Swanson]

Commenting for Bochs: In order to get XP to run in Bochs, you need to
set the IPS insanely high. I forgot how high, but the documentation
says it.
-- 
Mike

Re: [Qemu-devel] We want to example qemu and the accel-module in our distribution.

[Xuqing Kuang]

Hey, Hu gang.

Thank you for your reply.

I know QVM86, but I saw it's not supported by gentoo in qemu's ebuild.
I will test it. :-)

Yes, you are right. We all know emulator development process is a
really hard work.
We all know whos technologies we based.

I'm convincing my leaders for donation part of our profits as far as possible.

But I promise all of enhancement codes by us all over the project
processing will publish to Open Source Community.

We sincere support Open Source Community development.
This request email is the best proof.

Cheers.

---------------------------------------------------
Xuqing Kuang（xqkuang@redflag-linux.com）
Red Flag Linux Server Development Team

www.redflag-linux.com
www.asianux.com


On 5/13/05, hugang@soulinfo.com <hugang@soulinfo.com> wrote:
> On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 11:14:59AM +0800, Xuqing Kuang wrote:
> > Dear qemu developers.
> >
> > We are a Linux distributer called Red Flag Software from China.
> > We want to redistribute qemu + accelerator module built-in in our
> > system called Red Flag Server System.
> >
> > We got a project need Windows XP running as a virtual machine on our system.
> > But Xen can't support other OS except Linux and NetBSD right now。
> >
> > We checked bochs, vmware and qemu.
> > Bochs need speed up and XP support, and Vmware isn't free software and
> > we don't want to build it into our system.
> >
> > Qemu with Accelerator Module works really fine on our system.
> >
> > So, We need your authorized for commercial use if we done the project.
> >
> > Thank you for your hard works.
> 
> Why not choose QEMU + QVM86, The QVM86 do same thing with accelerator
> module, but it is Open Source Project.
> 
> https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/qvm86/
> 
> qvm86 is a kernel module to provide x86 virtualisation capabilities for
> the qemu emulator. Virtualisation allows "emulated" code to be run natively
> on the host cpu, using the CPU protection mechanisms to intercept and emulate
> priveleged events.
> 
> But I think you'd better have donation some money to QVM86 and QEMU
> project.
> 
> I'm also in china. :)
> 
> --
> Hu Gang       .-.
>               /v\
>              // \\
> Linux User  /(   )\  [204016]
> GPG Key ID   ^^-^^   http://soulinfo.com/~hugang/hugang.asc
>

Re: [Qemu-devel] We want to example qemu and the accel-module in our distribution.

[Hetz Ben Hamo]

Dear Xuqing,

For the KQEMU part, I suggest asking Fabrice Bellard directly (he's the author).

Thanks,
Hetz

On 5/13/05, Xuqing Kuang <xuqingkuang@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey, Hu gang.
> 
> Thank you for your reply.
> 
> I know QVM86, but I saw it's not supported by gentoo in qemu's ebuild.
> I will test it. :-)
> 
> Yes, you are right. We all know emulator development process is a
> really hard work.
> We all know whos technologies we based.
> 
> I'm convincing my leaders for donation part of our profits as far as possible.
> 
> But I promise all of enhancement codes by us all over the project
> processing will publish to Open Source Community.
> 
> We sincere support Open Source Community development.
> This request email is the best proof.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Xuqing Kuang（xqkuang@redflag-linux.com）
> Red Flag Linux Server Development Team
> 
> www.redflag-linux.com
> www.asianux.com
> 
> On 5/13/05, hugang@soulinfo.com <hugang@soulinfo.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 11:14:59AM +0800, Xuqing Kuang wrote:
> > > Dear qemu developers.
> > >
> > > We are a Linux distributer called Red Flag Software from China.
> > > We want to redistribute qemu + accelerator module built-in in our
> > > system called Red Flag Server System.
> > >
> > > We got a project need Windows XP running as a virtual machine on our system.
> > > But Xen can't support other OS except Linux and NetBSD right now。
> > >
> > > We checked bochs, vmware and qemu.
> > > Bochs need speed up and XP support, and Vmware isn't free software and
> > > we don't want to build it into our system.
> > >
> > > Qemu with Accelerator Module works really fine on our system.
> > >
> > > So, We need your authorized for commercial use if we done the project.
> > >
> > > Thank you for your hard works.
> >
> > Why not choose QEMU + QVM86, The QVM86 do same thing with accelerator
> > module, but it is Open Source Project.
> >
> > https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/qvm86/
> >
> > qvm86 is a kernel module to provide x86 virtualisation capabilities for
> > the qemu emulator. Virtualisation allows "emulated" code to be run natively
> > on the host cpu, using the CPU protection mechanisms to intercept and emulate
> > priveleged events.
> >
> > But I think you'd better have donation some money to QVM86 and QEMU
> > project.
> >
> > I'm also in china. :)
> >
> > --
> > Hu Gang       .-.
> >               /v\
> >              // \\
> > Linux User  /(   )\  [204016]
> > GPG Key ID   ^^-^^   http://soulinfo.com/~hugang/hugang.asc
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Qemu-devel mailing list
> Qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel
>

Re: [Qemu-devel] We want to example qemu and the accel-module in our distribution.

[Christian MICHON]

There are people out there already distributing kqemu, if I understand
enough the following article.

http://knoppix.guilinux.com/article.php?sid=1067

Did they get approval? Or are they just re-packaging qemu and asking
the end-user to recompile kqemu module themselves ?

-- 
Christian

Re: [Qemu-devel] We want to example qemu and the accel-module in our distribution.

[Jason Gress]

On Friday 13 May 2005 07:43 am, Christian MICHON wrote:
> There are people out there already distributing kqemu, if I understand
> enough the following article.
>
> http://knoppix.guilinux.com/article.php?sid=1067
>
> Did they get approval? Or are they just re-packaging qemu and asking
> the end-user to recompile kqemu module themselves ?

This is interesting.  If this is true, perhaps Fabrice is receiving the just 
compensation for KQEMU that he deserves?  It would be wonderful if KQEMU 
became free software as his website suggests is possible with the proper 
support.  Or, perhaps the Red Flag folks can help in this regard?  I know 
that so many of us would love to see KQEMU become free software if Fabrice's 
conditions are met!  Comments?

	Jason

Re: [Qemu-devel] We want to example qemu and the accel-module in our distribution.

[Leonardo E. Reiter]

We are not distributing KQEMU.  We ask our users to download it themselves.

- Leo

Christian MICHON wrote:
> There are people out there already distributing kqemu, if I understand
> enough the following article.
> 
> http://knoppix.guilinux.com/article.php?sid=1067
> 
> Did they get approval? Or are they just re-packaging qemu and asking
> the end-user to recompile kqemu module themselves ?
> 

-- 
Leonardo E. Reiter
Vice President of Product Development, CTO

Win4Lin, Inc.
Virtual Computing from Desktop to Data Center
Main: +1 512 339 7979
Fax: +1 512 532 6501
http://www.win4lin.com

Re: [Qemu-devel] We want to example qemu and the accel-module in our distribution.

[Xuqing Kuang]

Thank you Hetz.

I will mail Bellard. :-)

btw: We had tested qvm86, the performance is ok.

On 5/13/05, Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com> wrote:
> On Friday 13 May 2005 04:14, Xuqing Kuang wrote:
> > We checked bochs, vmware and qemu.
> > Bochs need speed up and XP support, and Vmware isn't free software and
> > we don't want to build it into our system.
> 
> kqemu isn't free software either.
> 
> Paul
> 

Yes, you are right.

But I'm not wrong, I mean qemu is free software.  :-)

I send this mail because we know kqemu is not free software.

On 5/13/05, Hetz Ben Hamo <hetzbh@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Xuqing,
> 
> For the KQEMU part, I suggest asking Fabrice Bellard directly (he's the author).
> 
> Thanks,
> Hetz
> 
> On 5/13/05, Xuqing Kuang <xuqingkuang@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hey, Hu gang.
> >
> > Thank you for your reply.
> >
> > I know QVM86, but I saw it's not supported by gentoo in qemu's ebuild.
> > I will test it. :-)
> >
> > Yes, you are right. We all know emulator development process is a
> > really hard work.
> > We all know whos technologies we based.
> >
> > I'm convincing my leaders for donation part of our profits as far as possible.
> >
> > But I promise all of enhancement codes by us all over the project
> > processing will publish to Open Source Community.
> >
> > We sincere support Open Source Community development.
> > This request email is the best proof.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > Xuqing Kuang（xqkuang@redflag-linux.com）
> > Red Flag Linux Server Development Team
> >
> > www.redflag-linux.com
> > www.asianux.com
> >
> > On 5/13/05, hugang@soulinfo.com <hugang@soulinfo.com> wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 11:14:59AM +0800, Xuqing Kuang wrote:
> > > > Dear qemu developers.
> > > >
> > > > We are a Linux distributer called Red Flag Software from China.
> > > > We want to redistribute qemu + accelerator module built-in in our
> > > > system called Red Flag Server System.
> > > >
> > > > We got a project need Windows XP running as a virtual machine on our system.
> > > > But Xen can't support other OS except Linux and NetBSD right now。
> > > >
> > > > We checked bochs, vmware and qemu.
> > > > Bochs need speed up and XP support, and Vmware isn't free software and
> > > > we don't want to build it into our system.
> > > >
> > > > Qemu with Accelerator Module works really fine on our system.
> > > >
> > > > So, We need your authorized for commercial use if we done the project.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your hard works.
> > >
> > > Why not choose QEMU + QVM86, The QVM86 do same thing with accelerator
> > > module, but it is Open Source Project.
> > >
> > > https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/qvm86/
> > >
> > > qvm86 is a kernel module to provide x86 virtualisation capabilities for
> > > the qemu emulator. Virtualisation allows "emulated" code to be run natively
> > > on the host cpu, using the CPU protection mechanisms to intercept and emulate
> > > priveleged events.
> > >
> > > But I think you'd better have donation some money to QVM86 and QEMU
> > > project.
> > >
> > > I'm also in china. :)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Hu Gang       .-.
> > >               /v\
> > >              // \\
> > > Linux User  /(   )\  [204016]
> > > GPG Key ID   ^^-^^   http://soulinfo.com/~hugang/hugang.asc
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Qemu-devel mailing list
> > Qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel
> >
> 
 ---------------------------------------------------
Xuqing Kuang（xqkuang@redflag-linux.com）
Red Flag Linux Server Development Team

www.redflag-linux.com
www.asianux.com

Re: [Qemu-devel] We want to example qemu and the accel-module in our distribution.

[Paul Brook]

On Friday 13 May 2005 04:14, Xuqing Kuang wrote:
> We checked bochs, vmware and qemu.
> Bochs need speed up and XP support, and Vmware isn't free software and
> we don't want to build it into our system.

kqemu isn't free software either.

Paul