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From: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
To: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: "Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Leonardo Bras" <leobras@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"Jiri Denemark" <jdenemar@redhat.com>,
	"Avihai Horon" <avihaih@nvidia.com>,
	"Daniel P . Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] migration/doc: We broke backwards compatibility
Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 09:09:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42862ba2-4c46-f8a7-66fb-1d56104d64af@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230515083201.55060-4-quintela@redhat.com>

Am 15.05.23 um 10:32 schrieb Juan Quintela:
> When we detect that we have broken backwards compantibility in a

compatibility

(...)

> +
> +In qemu-8.0 we got this commit: ::
> +
> +    commit 9a6ef182c03eaa138bae553f0fbb5a123bef9a53
> +    Author: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
> +    Date:   Thu Mar 2 13:37:03 2023 +0000
> +
> +        hw/pci/aer: Add missing routing for AER errors
> +
> +The relevant bits of the commit for our example are this ones:
> +
> +    --- a/hw/pci/pcie_aer.c
> +    +++ b/hw/pci/pcie_aer.c
> +    @@ -112,6 +112,10 @@ int pcie_aer_init(PCIDevice *dev,
> +
> +         pci_set_long(dev->w1cmask + offset + PCI_ERR_UNCOR_STATUS,
> +                      PCI_ERR_UNC_SUPPORTED);
> +    +    pci_set_long(dev->config + offset + PCI_ERR_UNCOR_MASK,
> +    +                 PCI_ERR_UNC_MASK_DEFAULT);
> +    +    pci_set_long(dev->wmask + offset + PCI_ERR_UNCOR_MASK,
> +    +                 PCI_ERR_UNC_SUPPORTED);
> +
> +         pci_set_long(dev->config + offset + PCI_ERR_UNCOR_SEVER,
> +                     PCI_ERR_UNC_SEVERITY_DEFAULT);
> +

These changes are not part of commit
9a6ef182c0 ("hw/pci/aer: Add missing routing for AER errors")
but rather the one before it, namely
010746ae1d ("hw/pci/aer: Implement PCI_ERR_UNCOR_MASK register")

> +The patch changes how we configure pci space for AER.  But qemu fails

Should QEMU and PCI be capitalized in the text parts?

> +when the pci space configuration is different betwwen source and

between

> +destination.
> +
> +The following commit show how this got fixed:

shows

(...)

> +
> +So the normality has been restaured and everything is ok, no?

restored

> +
> +Not really, now our matrix is much bigger.  We started with the easy
> +cases, migration from the same version to the same version always
> +works:
> +
> +- $ qemu-7.2 -M pc-7.2  ->  qemu-7.2 -M pc-7.2
> +- $ qemu-8.0 -M pc-7.2  ->  qemu-8.0 -M pc-7.2
> +- $ qemu-8.0.1 -M pc-7.2  ->  qemu-8.0.1 -M pc-7.2
> +
> +Now the interesting ones.  When the QEMU processes versions are
> +different.  For the 1st set, their fail and we can do nothing, both
> +versions are relased and we can't change anything.

released

> +
> +- $ qemu-7.2 -M pc-7.2  ->  qemu-8.0 -M pc-7.2
> +- $ qemu-8.0 -M pc-7.2  ->  qemu-7.2 -M pc-7.2
> +
> +This two are the ones that work. The whole point of making the
> +change in qemu-8.0.1 release was to fix this issue:
> +
> +- $ qemu-7.2 -M pc-7.2  ->  qemu-8.0.1 -M pc-7.2
> +- $ qemu-8.0.1 -M pc-7.2  ->  qemu-7.2 -M pc-7.2
> +
> +But now we found that qemu-8.0 neither can migrate to qemu-7.2 not
> +qemu-8.0.1.
> +
> +- $ qemu-8.0 -M pc-7.2  ->  qemu-8.0.1 -M pc-7.2
> +- $ qemu-8.0.1 -M pc-7.2  ->  qemu-8.0 -M pc-7.2
> +
> +So, if we start a pc-7.2 machine in qemu-8.0 we can't migrate it to
> +anything except to qemu-8.0.
> +
> +Can we do better?
> +
> +Yeap.  If we know that we are gonig to do this migration:

going

> +
> +- $ qemu-8.0 -M pc-7.2  ->  qemu-8.0.1 -M pc-7.2
> +
> +We can launche the appropiate devices with

"launch" was already pointed out by Peter, but there's also "appropriate"

> +
> +--device...,x-pci-e-err-unc-mask=on
> +
> +And now we can receive a migration from 8.0.  And from now on, we can
> +do that migration to new machine types if we remember to enable that
> +property for pc-7.2.  Notice that we need to remember, it is not
> +enough to know that the source of the migration is qemu-8.0.  Think of this example:
> +
> +$ qemu-8.0 -M pc-7.2 -> qemu-8.0.1 -M pc-7.2 -> qemu-8.2 -M pc-7.2
> +
> +In the second migration, the source is not qemu-8.0, but we still have
> +that "problem" and have that property enabled.  Notice that we need to
> +continue having this mark/property until we have this machine
> +rebooted.  But it is not a normal reboot (that don't reload qemu) we
> +need the mapchine to poweroff/poweron on a fixed qemu.  And from now

machine

Best Regards,
Fiona



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-05-17  7:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-15  8:31 [PATCH v3 0/3] Migration documentation Juan Quintela
2023-05-15  8:31 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] migration: Add documentation for backwards compatiblity Juan Quintela
2023-05-16 23:39   ` Peter Xu
2023-05-18  1:47     ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-10-17 13:59       ` Juan Quintela
2023-10-23 11:09     ` Juan Quintela
2023-05-15  8:32 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] migration/docs: How to migrate when hosts have different features Juan Quintela
2023-05-16 23:51   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-17 14:05     ` Juan Quintela
2023-05-17 10:23   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-17 14:11     ` Juan Quintela
2023-05-15  8:32 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] migration/doc: We broke backwards compatibility Juan Quintela
2023-05-17  0:03   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-17 14:18     ` Juan Quintela
2023-05-17  7:09   ` Fiona Ebner [this message]
2023-10-23 11:09     ` Juan Quintela
2023-05-17 10:20   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-17 11:43     ` Juan Quintela
2023-05-17 11:47       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-31 13:23       ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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