[Qemu-devel] Qemu and Synergy?

[Qemu-devel] Qemu and Synergy?

[Oliver Gerlich]

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Hi,
is anyone here using Synergy (see synergy2.sf.net) to make the mouse go
smoothly from host to guest? At first glance, I'd say Synergy offers
much of the stuff that's necessary for easing the use of Qemu: it can
transport mouse and keyboard commands to another machine (to the Qemu
guest), and it offers clipboard sharing.

At second glance, Synergy moves the mouse pointer only when it reaches a
 screen border (for good interaction with Qemu, it should move the
pointer whenever the Qemu windows is clicked or something like that).
Also, communication is done over TCP/IP, which might not be available in
all Qemu guests.

So, any ideas here on how to easily use Qemu and Synergy? IMHO, Qemu
would greatly benefit from these features. But I don't see a way to
integrate the two programs. Do you?

Regards,
Oliver Gerlich
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Qemu and Synergy?

[John R. Hogerhuis]

On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 18:09 +0200, Oliver Gerlich wrote:

> So, any ideas here on how to easily use Qemu and Synergy? IMHO, Qemu
> would greatly benefit from these features. But I don't see a way to
> integrate the two programs. Do you?
> 

Very cool. Have you talked to the developers of this software? They
probably have already given some thought to working with windowed
virtual machines, and if they haven't I bet they would be interested in
the concept.

-- John.

Re: [Qemu-devel] Qemu and Synergy?

[Oliver Gerlich]

John R. Hogerhuis wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 18:09 +0200, Oliver Gerlich wrote:
> 
> 
>>So, any ideas here on how to easily use Qemu and Synergy? IMHO, Qemu
>>would greatly benefit from these features. But I don't see a way to
>>integrate the two programs. Do you?
>>
> 
> 
> Very cool. Have you talked to the developers of this software? They
> probably have already given some thought to working with windowed
> virtual machines, and if they haven't I bet they would be interested in
> the concept.
> 
> -- John.
> 
> 
> 
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So far, I've opened a thread in the Synergy forum at sf.net (see 
http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1371199&forum_id=199579), 
but there are no replies yet.
Actually, I have no idea how to approach this, so I just posted it in 
their forum and on this list, hoping that people think about it and have 
some ideas...

Regards,
Oliver

Re: [Qemu-devel] Qemu and Synergy?

[Thomas Steffen]

On 10/22/05, Oliver Gerlich <olig9@gmx.de> wrote:
> is anyone here using Synergy (see synergy2.sf.net) to make the mouse go
> smoothly from host to guest? At first glance, I'd say Synergy offers
> much of the stuff that's necessary for easing the use of Qemu: it can
> transport mouse and keyboard commands to another machine (to the Qemu
> guest), and it offers clipboard sharing.
>
> At second glance, Synergy moves the mouse pointer only when it reaches a
> screen border (for good interaction with Qemu, it should move the
> pointer whenever the Qemu windows is clicked or something like that).

That sounds very much like x2x or x2vnc to me. I have been using x2vnc
for a while when I had a Linux and a Windows box on my desk, and it
works beautifully. Is synergy much different?

Apart from that, I think on the X11 side x2vnc works very much like
Qemu already does. Of course the vnc side could be interesting. And
maybe synergy has the same functionality, but with less code.

The communication over TCP could easily be moved to a QEMU specific
transport, I guess.

Thomas

Re: [Qemu-devel] Qemu and Synergy?

[Oliver Gerlich]

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Thomas Steffen schrieb:
> On 10/22/05, Oliver Gerlich <olig9@gmx.de> wrote:
> 
>>is anyone here using Synergy (see synergy2.sf.net) to make the mouse go
>>smoothly from host to guest? At first glance, I'd say Synergy offers
>>much of the stuff that's necessary for easing the use of Qemu: it can
>>transport mouse and keyboard commands to another machine (to the Qemu
>>guest), and it offers clipboard sharing.
>>
>>At second glance, Synergy moves the mouse pointer only when it reaches a
>>screen border (for good interaction with Qemu, it should move the
>>pointer whenever the Qemu windows is clicked or something like that).
> 
> 
> That sounds very much like x2x or x2vnc to me. I have been using x2vnc
> for a while when I had a Linux and a Windows box on my desk, and it
> works beautifully. Is synergy much different?
> 
> Apart from that, I think on the X11 side x2vnc works very much like
> Qemu already does. Of course the vnc side could be interesting. And
> maybe synergy has the same functionality, but with less code.
> 
> The communication over TCP could easily be moved to a QEMU specific
> transport, I guess.
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 
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> 

Thanks for pointing out x2vnc and x2x. I didn't knew about them.
- From what I can see they have quite similar functionality as synergy,
only that synergy (if I understand correctly) works with Linux, Windows
and Mac, and the master computer doesn't necessarily have to run Linux
(correct me if I'm wrong).

Btw. according to the synergy developer there's a big refactoring
planned, which might add support for things like Qemu interaction (see
http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1371199&forum_id=199579).
 Also see
http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1372094&forum_id=199579
about changing the transport layer. Although such functionality not
absolutely necessary, it would certainly help :)

Regards,
Oliver
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