From: Sebastian Kaliszewski <Sebastian.Kaliszewski@softax.com.pl>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] PC speaker emulation (fixed point)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:35:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43D61F14.8080209@softax.com.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EC593D76-359B-4211-B802-D2704CF1C751@gmx.de>
Joachim Henke wrote:
> I still prefer using a sine wave, it sounds more smooth and won't hurt
> our ears (and speakers) too much.
Well, it sounds rather dull, and even worse, on non hi-fi computer speakers
(which is 90% of PC users use) low frequencies (<100Hz) are simply
unhearable (since equipment is very poor at transmitting those frequencies).
While harmonics rich square wave will be hearable, due to harmonics being
hearable.
> I don't think that people want to
> play square waves, when they have their PC connected to their hifi
> system
Many people connected their Apples IIs, Commodores 64s & Ataris 800s to
their Hi-Fi equipment, and those didn't break their ears nor equipment.
> (c: The main purpose of the PC speaker is to generate tones and
> many programmers used it to play melodies. Why shouldn't we take this
> chance to make it sound as good as we can manage it?
Exactly. No real musical instrument generates sine wawes. Moreover as
various psyhoacustics reaserch shows, using pure sine waes changes our
perception of chords & harmony. Then 95% of home sound equipment degrages
and attenuates low frequencies below 40-50Hz.
If Qemu is for emulation it should emulate things as close to reality as
feasible. Why do more work & intentionally break the close emulation, while
it's even easier to acheive?
[snip]
> However, this approach should still be sufficient for our purpose. Most
> programs don't use too low frequencies, and if they do, people probably
> won't notice.
Many PC games used low frequencies to emit varius buzzes and stuff (like
engine noise). With sine wave those will be completely broken.
rgds
--
Sebastian Kaliszewski
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-24 12:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-01-09 19:01 [Qemu-devel] [patch] minimal PC speaker output Joachim Henke
2006-01-09 20:40 ` Fabrice Bellard
2006-01-10 9:11 ` he.jo
2006-01-18 23:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] PC speaker emulation Joachim Henke
2006-01-18 23:32 ` [Qemu-devel] " Joachim Henke
2006-01-19 0:32 ` [Qemu-devel] " malc
2006-01-19 20:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] PC speaker emulation (fixed) Joachim Henke
2006-01-19 23:29 ` malc
2006-01-20 9:42 ` Joachim Henke
2006-01-20 13:03 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-01-20 12:03 ` Sebastian Kaliszewski
2006-01-23 21:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] PC speaker emulation (fixed point) Joachim Henke
2006-01-24 12:35 ` Sebastian Kaliszewski [this message]
2006-01-24 15:50 ` Joachim Henke
2006-01-24 18:29 ` Sebastian Kaliszewski
2006-01-24 21:45 ` Fabrice Bellard
2006-01-25 0:38 ` Sebastian Kaliszewski
2006-01-25 21:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] PC speaker emulation (square wave) Joachim Henke
2006-01-26 4:50 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-26 16:55 ` Sebastian Kaliszewski
2006-01-29 10:44 ` Joachim Henke
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