From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Fqz16-0003ZI-5g for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:04:40 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Fqz15-0003Y6-7J for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:04:39 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fqz15-0003Xk-08 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:04:39 -0400 Received: from [64.233.184.227] (helo=wr-out-0506.google.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FqzAY-00060t-CO for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:14:26 -0400 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 71so486138wri for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:04:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4491CB64.30704@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:04:36 -0400 From: Joe Lee MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player References: <44902362.2000406@gmail.com> <200606141601.59936.paul@codesourcery.com> <4490310D.7060303@gmail.com> <44903504.1070707@gmx.de> <1150357642.5679.7.camel@excellence.kicks-ass.net> <9b0d5f320606150618q25cd2b51v6a2ee6fc951f26b9@mail.gmail.com> <44916C36.50505@gmail.com> <4491B825.3010000@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: joelee724@gmail.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Johannes Schindelin Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org Johannes Schindelin wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Joe Lee wrote: > > >>> You're right! However, as Julian pointed out: it is less than fascinating to >>> work on a GUI, _especially_ if it is for the masses who tend to criticize >>> without contributing*Footnote 1*. >>> >> I am not sure I agree if that thought. It really depends on the mission or >> goal of the project. In the case for QEMU, I am not sure what its goal/mission >> is. Is the project just to scratch an itch to server a few people who needs >> it? Is it to fill a void over what exist in commercial software? Or, is the >> intent to develop something FREE and then offer some support service around >> the product? >> > > As far as I know: Fabrice started the project because he had this idea > that translation should be faster than interpreting, and not much more > difficult. > > He proved his point. And many people actually use QEmu, which is all the > better. > > >> As far as users criticizing, that always going to be the case in Open >> Source - Show me a project where users don't criticize. >> > > Yes. And developers will always complain about those who profit and don't > contribute. > > >> As far as contribution goes, not everyone has the talent and ability to >> contribute - Like me. >> > > I doubt that. You _can_ contribute. You actually do it right now. > > >> The way I see it, criticizing (when done in a constructive way) is not a >> bad thing. It is what drives the project when others share there views >> on features/functionality good or bad! >> > > This is a contribution! By telling what is important to you, you > contribute to the future value of the project (note that I say "project", > not "product"...) > > There is a subtle point-of-no-return though. The story I was referring to, > was where a person did not contribute, but instead called people names if > they did not do what she wanted, which was effectively to work hard and > for free. Which is just not fair. > > Ciao, > Dscho > > P.S.: Actually, it was a "he", but I say "she" here, because he was a real > pussy, and I am very happy he left the list. > I share your view. Complaining and bitching in the wrong way is not a good thing.