From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: alan@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC][PATCH] make sure disk writes actually hit disk
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:43:18 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44CA76E6.4050702@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200607282130.11255.paul@codesourcery.com>
Paul Brook wrote:
>>> With a proper async API, is there any reason why we would want this to be
>>> tunable? I don't think there's much of a benefit of prematurely claiming
>>> a write is complete especially once the SCSI emulation can support
>>> multiple simultaneous requests.
>> You're right. This O_SYNC bandaid should probably stay in place
>> to prevent data corruption, until the AIO framework is ready to
>> be used.
>
> It's arguable whether O_SYNC is needed at all. Qemu doesn't claim data is
> written to disk, and provides facilities for the guest OS to flush the cache,
> just like real hardware does.
Nice. Another difference between the qemu codebase and the qemu-dm
codebase used by Xen.
With the bdrv_flush stuff in place, it should even be easy for qemu
to actually do something when the guest OS switches disk write caching
off (currently that is a noop in the qemu code base).
> Have you measured the impact of O_SYNC? I wouldn't be surprised if it was
> significant.
I suspect it'll be horrific in the qemu codebase (blocking execution
of the guest OS until disk IO is complete), but it's fine in the Xen
qemu-dm situation, where IO completion happens asynchronously.
The recent commit message on the Xen side did not suggest there was
that much of a difference between both qemu code bases. Obviously
I was wrong, and the O_SYNC bandaid should probably be kept out for
now.
--
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-28 20:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-28 19:54 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH] make sure disk writes actually hit disk Rik van Riel
2006-07-28 19:58 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rik van Riel
2006-07-28 20:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-07-28 20:18 ` Rik van Riel
2006-07-28 20:30 ` Paul Brook
2006-07-28 20:43 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2006-07-28 21:01 ` Paul Brook
2006-07-31 7:08 ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-29 9:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Fabrice Bellard
2006-07-29 14:59 ` Rik van Riel
2006-07-29 16:04 ` Paul Brook
2006-07-29 16:22 ` Rik van Riel
2006-07-29 16:31 ` Paul Brook
2006-07-31 7:08 ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-29 17:33 ` Bill C. Riemers
2006-07-30 21:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-07-30 21:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-07-31 9:52 ` andrzej zaborowski
2006-07-31 10:17 ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-31 17:50 ` andrzej zaborowski
2006-07-31 7:08 ` Jens Axboe
2006-07-31 7:56 ` Jonas Maebe
2006-07-31 8:18 ` Jens Axboe
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