From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GFX4y-0007Wd-1l for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:18:08 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GFX4w-0007Vn-9A for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:18:07 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GFX4w-0007Ve-0B for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:18:06 -0400 Received: from [134.130.3.131] (helo=ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_MD5:16) (Exim 4.52) id 1GFXCY-0002b6-HN for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:25:58 -0400 Received: from r220-1 (r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.31]) by ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 Patch 2 (built Jul 14 2004)) with ESMTP id <0J4E00EU1L24WY@ms-dienst.rz.rwth-aachen.de> for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:18:04 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [137.226.40.101] (pc42.xtal.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.40.101]) by relay.rwth-aachen.de (8.13.7/8.13.3/1) with ESMTP id k7MEI3Qi020589 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:18:03 +0200 (MEST) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:19:56 +0200 From: Jan Marten Simons Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] windows xp under pclinuxos 2005 In-reply-to: Message-id: <44EB128C.3020803@xtal.rwth-aachen.de> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <20060820181501.11663156090@pc42.xtal.rwth-aachen.de> <44E9D35F.4080104@xtal.rwth-aachen.de> <44EA1DEF.6070103@bellard.org> <44EABE8F.3000303@xtal.rwth-aachen.de> Reply-To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org Johannes Schindelin wrote: >> I'm still thinking FTP would be a useful alternative as it's more low-level. >> > > It is not only simpler, it is no file system. > > With FTP, you'd still have to "download" the files to use them. By > contrast, SMB and NFS allow you to use the files directly (even writing). > I tried to fill this gap by writing vvfat a long time ago, but people seem > to hate it. > Actually, I think vvfat is another useful feature (thanks for the work you put into it), but I also think it's not trivial to keep the device in sync while qemu is runnning and writes can occur from the host to the shared directory and from the guest to the virtual hdd / removable medium (hotplug support is needed from the guest or things are likely to go out of sync). With FTP you'd just refresh when the ftp-client asks for a refresh. Much easier to handle this ;) Additionally linux is able to mount FTP as well (using FUSE or LUFS) thou this is a bit of a hack. In my opinion the versatility of qemu is one of its best features. Therefore I think its good to add various helpers to it, so you can choose the one, which is suited best for your setup/problem. Other products don't offer that flexibility. With regards and thanks for vvfat, Jan