From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GNA2q-0003Qz-Q2 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:19:28 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GNA2p-0003Qk-6n for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:19:28 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GNA2p-0003QY-2b for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:19:27 -0400 Received: from [213.133.111.57] (helo=bugaboo.mu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1GNA4L-0007Nx-6d for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:21:01 -0400 Message-ID: <4506CFF9.4010305@bluegap.ch> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:19:21 +0200 From: Markus Schiltknecht MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] ARM CPU Speed simulated by Qemu? References: <33074299.1158073713450.JavaMail.www@wwinf1515> In-Reply-To: <33074299.1158073713450.JavaMail.www@wwinf1515> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: laurent.desnogues@wanadoo.fr Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org Laurent DESNOGUES wrote: > On top of that try to find a specification for data > side behaviour, these beasts are not documented for > two reasons: > - they are heavily optimized and so not easily > described > - they often define the efficiency of a CPU and > so are considered as secret. That might be the hardest part. Simulating any level of caches should not be _that_ hard. (And a write or store buffer looks just exactly like yet another cache). >> Simulating branch prediction seems more complex to me (probably because >> I'm thinking x86, not ARM). > > Branch prediction has become very complex on ARM > but not as much as data side. Sorry, I meant to refer to the pipeline, which is significantly shorter on ARM than on the NetBurst CPUs from Intel... :-) Thank you for your help. Markus