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From: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, famz@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com,
	mreitz@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	den@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/25] block/dirty-bitmap: add readonly field to BdrvDirtyBitmap
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2017 14:46:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <450ae852-a5c4-17f1-2027-f68bf91262aa@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30533fc6-e32f-9d9c-6030-d923e0734ce7@virtuozzo.com>



On 06/02/2017 05:45 AM, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> 02.06.2017 12:01, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>> 02.06.2017 11:56, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>>> 02.06.2017 02:25, John Snow wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 06/01/2017 03:30 AM, Sementsov-Ogievskiy Vladimir wrote:
>>>>> Hi John!
>>>>>
>>>>> Look at our discussion about this in v18 thread.
>>>>>> Shortly: readonly is not the same as disabled. disabled= bitmap just
>>>>> ignores all writes. readonly= writes are not allowed at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> And I think, I'll try to go through way 2: "dirty" field instead of
>>>>> "readonly" (look at v18 discussion), as it a bit more flexible.
>>>>>
>>>> Not sure which I prefer...
>>>>
>>>> Method 1 is attractive in that it is fairly simple, and enforces fairly
>>>> loudly the inability to write to devices with RO bitmaps. It's a
>>>> natural
>>>> extension of your current approach.
>>>
>>> For now I decided to realize this one, I think I'll publish it today.
>>> Also, I'm going to rename s/readonly/in_use - to avoid the confuse
>>> with disabled. So let this field just be mirror of IN_USE in the
>>> image and just say "persistent storage knows, that bitmap is in use
>>> and may be dirty".
> 
> Finally it would be readonly. in_use is bad for created (not loaded)
> bitmaps. I'll add more descriptive comments for disabled and readonly.
> 

Makes sense. It sounds like "readonly" is simply a stricter superset of
"disabled," where "disabled" doesn't care if the bitmap gets out of sync
with the data, but "readonly" attempts to preserve that semantic
relationship.

>>>
>>> Also, optimization with 'dirty' flag may be added later.
>>

Yes, I agree.

>> And, also, I don't want to influence this "first write", on which we
>> will set "IN_USE" in all bitmaps (for way (2). Reopening rw is less
>> performance-demanding place than write.
>>

"And, also," -- I think you've been reading my emails too much, you're
picking up my 'isms ;)

Thanks,
--John

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-02 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-30  8:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v19 00/25] qcow2: persistent dirty bitmaps Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/25] specs/qcow2: fix bitmap granularity qemu-specific note Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/25] specs/qcow2: do not use wording 'bitmap header' Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/25] hbitmap: improve dirty iter Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/25] tests: add hbitmap iter test Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/25] block: fix bdrv_dirty_bitmap_granularity signature Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/25] block/dirty-bitmap: add deserialize_ones func Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/25] qcow2-refcount: rename inc_refcounts() and make it public Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/25] qcow2: add bitmaps extension Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/25] block/dirty-bitmap: add readonly field to BdrvDirtyBitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-31 23:48   ` John Snow
2017-06-01  7:30     ` Sementsov-Ogievskiy Vladimir
2017-06-01 18:55       ` John Snow
2017-06-01 23:25       ` John Snow
2017-06-02  8:56         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-06-02  9:01           ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-06-02  9:45             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-06-02 18:46               ` John Snow [this message]
2017-06-03 17:02                 ` Sementsov-Ogievskiy Vladimir
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/25] qcow2: autoloading dirty bitmaps Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/25] block/dirty-bitmap: add autoload field to BdrvDirtyBitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/25] block: bdrv_close: release bitmaps after drv->bdrv_close Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/25] block: introduce persistent dirty bitmaps Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/25] block/dirty-bitmap: add bdrv_dirty_bitmap_next() Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/25] qcow2: add persistent dirty bitmaps support Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/25] block: add bdrv_can_store_new_dirty_bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/25] qcow2: add .bdrv_can_store_new_dirty_bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/25] qmp: add persistent flag to block-dirty-bitmap-add Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/25] qmp: add autoload parameter " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/25] qmp: add x-debug-block-dirty-bitmap-sha256 Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/25] iotests: test qcow2 persistent dirty bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/25] block/dirty-bitmap: add bdrv_remove_persistent_dirty_bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 23/25] qcow2: add .bdrv_remove_persistent_dirty_bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 24/25] qmp: block-dirty-bitmap-remove: remove persistent Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 25/25] block: release persistent bitmaps on inactivate Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-31 16:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v19 00/25] qcow2: persistent dirty bitmaps Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-05-03 12:25 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v18 " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/25] block/dirty-bitmap: add readonly field to BdrvDirtyBitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-19 23:02   ` John Snow
2017-05-25  9:34     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-31 22:58     ` John Snow
2017-06-01  7:23       ` Sementsov-Ogievskiy Vladimir
2017-05-29 15:49   ` Max Reitz
2017-05-29 18:35   ` Max Reitz
2017-05-30  6:50     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  7:31       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  7:47         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-31 13:43       ` Max Reitz
2017-05-31 14:29         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-31 14:44           ` Max Reitz
2017-05-31 15:05             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-31 15:53               ` Max Reitz
2017-06-01 22:35                 ` John Snow
2017-06-01 22:29         ` John Snow
2017-06-07 12:40           ` Max Reitz

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