From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GXDsT-00022w-GJ for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:26:21 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GXDsO-000212-QN for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:26:20 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GXDsO-00020z-NY for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:26:16 -0400 Received: from [202.10.81.182] (helo=mail.root.id.au) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GXE08-00054W-Ja for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 05:34:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.root.id.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1907DE766A for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:26:08 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <452B6730.4010207@root.id.au> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:26:08 +1000 From: Joshua Root MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] International Virtualization Conference References: <20061008123019.94942.qmail@web52613.mail.yahoo.com> <20061008143646.GA27314@jbrown.mylinuxbox.org> <200610090005.02895.rob@landley.net> In-Reply-To: <200610090005.02895.rob@landley.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org Rob Landley wrote: > On Sunday 08 October 2006 10:36 am, Jim C. Brown wrote: >> qemu is primarily a dynamic translator not a virtualizer. > > That's an implementation detail. The end result is running programs in a > virtual environment, and qemu's system emulation has lots of virtual hardware > it attaches to virtual busses, which it performs virtual I/O to, even > simulating the delivery of virtual interrupts to signal completion of virtual > DMA. Part of the generally accepted definition of virtualization is that the majority of guest instructions execute directly on the real CPU with no intervention by the VMM. QEMU + qvm86 does count as virtualization if the system spends most of its time in user mode; QEMU on its own does not (you run code that is very different to the original binary). - Josh