From: JAEHOON KIM <jhkim@linux.ibm.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Steven Sistare" <steven.sistare@oracle.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, jjherne@linux.ibm.com, peterx@redhat.com,
farosas@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] migration: Wait for cpr.sock file to appear before connecting
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2025 09:54:02 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45458e9f-ef59-43e3-abd6-5d923575afa4@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aEbmvQXyCLMKSy_8@redhat.com>
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On 6/9/2025 8:50 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 09, 2025 at 09:39:48AM -0400, Steven Sistare wrote:
>> On 6/9/2025 9:20 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 09, 2025 at 09:12:27AM -0400, Steven Sistare wrote:
>>>> On 6/9/2025 4:06 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 06, 2025 at 03:37:56PM -0400, Steven Sistare wrote:
>>>>>> The easiest solution, with no interface changes, is adding wait_for_socket() in qtest,
>>>>>> with this addition from Daniel:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "With the busy wait you risk looping forever if the child (target) QEMU
>>>>>> already exited for some reason without ever creating the socket. You
>>>>>> can mitigate this by using 'kill($PID, 0)' in the loop and looking
>>>>>> for -ERSCH, but this only works if you know the pid involved."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel also suggested:
>>>>>> "For the tests, passing a pre-opened UNIX socket FD could work"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note we can not use any of the standard chardev options to specify such a socket,
>>>>>> because the cpr socket is created before chardevs are created.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps we could specify the fd in an extension of the MigrationChannel MigrationAddress.
>>>>>> { 'union': 'MigrationAddress',
>>>>>> 'base': { 'transport' : 'MigrationAddressType'},
>>>>>> 'discriminator': 'transport',
>>>>>> 'data': {
>>>>>> 'socket': 'SocketAddress',
>>>>>> 'exec': 'MigrationExecCommand',
>>>>>> 'rdma': 'InetSocketAddress',
>>>>>> 'file': 'FileMigrationArgs',
>>>>>> 'fd': 'FdMigrationArgs' } } <-- add this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That would be useful for all clients, but this is asking a lot from you,
>>>>>> when you are just trying to fix the tests.
>>>>> Note, 'SocketAddress' already has an option for declaring a FD that
>>>>> represents a socket.
>>>> Yes, but if I understand, you proposed passing an fd that represents a
>>>> pre-listened socket, which requires target qemu to accept() first. The
>>>> existing FdSocketAddress is ready to read. We could add a boolean to enable
>>>> the new behavior.
>>> It can do both actually - it depends on what APIs the QEMU uses the
>>> SocketAddress with.
>>>
>>> If it is used with qio_channel_socket_connect* the FD must be an
>>> active peer connection.
>>>
>>> If it is used with qio_channel_socket_listen*/qio_net_listener* the
>>> FD must be listener socket.
>> Fair enough. cpr currently listens here, and we could add a case for the FD:
>>
>> QEMUFile *cpr_transfer_input(MigrationChannel *channel, Error **errp)
>> {
>> MigrationAddress *addr = channel->addr;
>>
>> if (addr->transport == MIGRATION_ADDRESS_TYPE_SOCKET &&
>> addr->u.socket.type == SOCKET_ADDRESS_TYPE_UNIX) {
>> ...
>> g_autoptr(QIONetListener) listener = qio_net_listener_new();
>>
>> Or to use my socketpair() suggestion, that function would also need changes,
>> calling qio_channel_socket_connect.
>>
>> Which do you think is better for clients -- socketpair or pre-listened?
> Please just use the existing SocketAddress functionality, as that's used
> throughout QEMU - a special case with socketpair for migration is not
> desirable.
>
> The SocketAddress stuff is what libvirt's used for many years now to
> address the race condition with QMP listeners.
>
> With regards,
> Daniel
Dear Daniel and Steve,
Thank you both for your valuable insights.
To clarify regarding the socket handling approach:
If I do not use socketpair() and instead pass a pre-listened FD to the target, which then calls accept(),
it seems this could mitigate some race condition. However, isn't there still a risk that the old QEMU might try to
connect before the target QEMU calls accept(), thereby resulting in the same race condition?
If I only consider the qtest environment, it seems to me that waiting for the target to create cpr.sock inside qtest framework
- along with checking the process status {kill(pid,0)} - might be the most efficient way to handle this.
I checked and found that the QTestState structure already has a "pid_t qemu_pid" field,
so it should be straightforward to check the target's PID.
From your experience,
which approach do you consider the most effective to solve the current race condition issue?
I would appreciate your thoughts.
- Jaehoon Kim
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-09 14:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-05 23:08 [PATCH v1] migration: Wait for cpr.sock file to appear before connecting Jaehoon Kim
2025-06-06 13:40 ` Fabiano Rosas
2025-06-06 14:48 ` JAEHOON KIM
2025-06-06 15:47 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-06-06 13:53 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-06-06 14:14 ` Steven Sistare
2025-06-06 15:06 ` JAEHOON KIM
2025-06-06 15:12 ` Steven Sistare
2025-06-06 15:37 ` JAEHOON KIM
2025-06-06 15:43 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-06-06 15:50 ` Steven Sistare
2025-06-06 16:06 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-06-06 17:04 ` Steven Sistare
2025-06-06 18:06 ` JAEHOON KIM
2025-06-06 19:37 ` Steven Sistare
2025-06-08 22:01 ` JAEHOON KIM
2025-06-09 8:06 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-06-09 13:12 ` Steven Sistare
2025-06-09 13:20 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-06-09 13:39 ` Steven Sistare
2025-06-09 13:48 ` JAEHOON KIM
2025-06-09 13:50 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-06-09 14:54 ` JAEHOON KIM [this message]
2025-06-09 14:57 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-06-09 15:32 ` JAEHOON KIM
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