From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HKHl2-0003ck-00 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:29:28 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HKHkz-0003cQ-NI for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:29:26 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HKHkz-0003cN-IP for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:29:25 -0500 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.231]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HKHkz-00054E-7p for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:29:25 -0500 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i30so356740wxd for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:29:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45DDD2F1.7070405@codemonkey.ws> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 11:29:21 -0600 From: Anthony Liguori MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] QEMU: VNC References: <200702220519.10448.luke-jr@utopios.org> <45DDC65A.2030001@codemonkey.ws> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Johannes Schindelin Cc: Luke-Jr , qemu-devel@nongnu.org Johannes Schindelin wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 22 Feb 2007, Anthony Liguori wrote: > > >> Johannes Schindelin wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007, Luke-Jr wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Yes. The authentication is not really secure. It only uses 16 bits if I >>>> remember correctly, so even without access to , it can be >>>> easily broken. >>>> >>>> The common practice is to block after 3 attempts, but there are ways >>>> around that, too. >>>> >>>> > > [Why do you quote me as if Luke was quoted?] > Because thunderbird sucks and did it automagically. >> For all practical purposes, it's a plain-text equivalent authentication >> mechanism. However, it's widely supported, and provides a useful >> feature so it's worth supporting. >> > > This invariably leads to user confusion. ("But I _did_ use encryption? > What do you mean, it is not encrypted, and the handshake is weak?") > I understand. The solution is education. The documentation for vnc auth support should make it very clear that it's plain-text equivalent. Regards, Anthony Liguori > Ciao, > Dscho > > BTW Anothony, now that I already have you on the subject of VNC, do you > have any plans on making the documentation on > http://www.realvnc.com/docs/rfbproto.pdf a little more useful for the > extensions you registered? > > >