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From: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
To: "Aleksandar Markovic" <aleksandar.qemu.devel@gmail.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>
Cc: Aleksandar Rikalo <aleksandar.rikalo@syrmia.com>,
	Yunqiang Su <ysu@wavecomp.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Jiaxun Yang <jiaxun.yang@flygoat.com>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] hw/mips/malta: Add the 'malta-strict' machine, matching Malta hardware
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 13:36:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45a0ca3e-06ba-c35d-c88a-e1d1fd944809@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHiYmc6tp9k9eSOKiSWaQjmaTyvJXi3k+RmLWqLmhTHY9_KDnQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/30/20 10:28 AM, Aleksandar Markovic wrote:
> уто, 30. јун 2020. у 19:16 Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <f4bug@amsat.org> је
> написао/ла:
>>
>> On 6/30/20 6:55 PM, Aleksandar Markovic wrote:
>>> уто, 30. јун 2020. у 18:46 Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <f4bug@amsat.org> је
>>> написао/ла:
>>>>
>>>> On 6/30/20 5:38 PM, Aleksandar Markovic wrote:
>>>>> уто, 30. јун 2020. у 16:52 Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <f4bug@amsat.org> је
>>>>> написао/ла:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This series add a new 'malta-strict' machine, that aims to properly
>>>>>> model the real hardware (which is not what the current 'malta'
>>>>>> machine models).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As a bonus for Debian builders, a 'malta-unleashed' machine RFC
>>>>>> patch is included. This might start another endless discussion
>>>>>> upstream, but this is not the point of, so I still include it
>>>>>> for people to test. The rest of the series is candidate for merging
>>>>>> in mainstream QEMU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Philippe Mathieu-Daudé (6):
>>>>>>   hw/mips/malta: Trivial code movement
>>>>>>   hw/mips/malta: Register the machine as a TypeInfo
>>>>>>   hw/mips/malta: Introduce MaltaMachineClass::max_ramsize
>>>>>>   hw/mips/malta: Introduce the 'malta-strict' machine
>>>>>>   hw/mips/malta: Verify malta-strict machine uses correct DIMM sizes
>>>>>>   hw/mips/malta: Introduce the 'malta-unleashed' 64-bit machine
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  hw/mips/malta.c | 125 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
>>>>>>  1 file changed, 111 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> This whole series is based on idea of emulating physically
>>>>> non-existing feature, and as such violates the fundamental principles
>>>>> of QEMU.
>>>>>
>>>>> As such, not acceptable for upstreaming.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't see the point of sending again the same series, in just
>>>>> cosmetically different form, if it was said to you that the concept is
>>>>> wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Have you looked at the patches? What "violates the fundamental
>>>> principles of QEMU" is the code currently in mainstream. Should
>>>> we remove it? I can send a patch for it if it pleases you, but
>>>> you will make QEMU unuseful for many distribution users.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Past mistakes are past mistakes. We have to live with them. And not
>>> make them in the future.
>>>
>>> I see the whole series as a precursor for your change that repeats
>>> past mistakes, a "wolf in sheep clothing".
>>>
>>> That's why I reject the series as a whole.
>>
>> As a co-maintainer I don't accept that.
>>
> 
> I offered you the full maintainership for Malta.
> 
> You said you can proveide only "Odd fiexes".
> 
> I had to jump in to provide "Maintained" status.
> 
> Therefore, I provide the higher level of maintainership, and you have
> to respect that. But you don't.

You need to cool your jets here, Aleksandar.

You do not have some mythical "higher level" of maintainership.  Nor, as far as
I can tell, are you actually doing anything with Malta whereas Philippe is.


r~


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-06-30 20:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-30 14:52 [PATCH v2 0/6] hw/mips/malta: Add the 'malta-strict' machine, matching Malta hardware Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-06-30 14:52 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] hw/mips/malta: Trivial code movement Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-06-30 14:52 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] hw/mips/malta: Register the machine as a TypeInfo Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-06-30 14:52 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] hw/mips/malta: Introduce MaltaMachineClass::max_ramsize Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-06-30 17:17   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-06-30 14:52 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] hw/mips/malta: Introduce the 'malta-strict' machine Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-06-30 14:52 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] hw/mips/malta: Verify malta-strict machine uses correct DIMM sizes Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-06-30 14:52 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] hw/mips/malta: Introduce the 'malta-unleashed' 64-bit machine Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-07-01 10:59   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-06-30 15:38 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] hw/mips/malta: Add the 'malta-strict' machine, matching Malta hardware Aleksandar Markovic
2020-06-30 16:46   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-06-30 16:55     ` Aleksandar Markovic
2020-06-30 17:16       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-06-30 17:28         ` Aleksandar Markovic
2020-06-30 19:51           ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-06-30 20:36           ` Richard Henderson [this message]
2020-06-30 20:19   ` Thomas Huth
2020-07-01 10:49   ` Daniel P. Berrangé

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