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From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/4] Rework alarm timer	infrastrucure -	take2
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:48:06 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46C84A16.7040305@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070819131042.GA22798@mail.shareable.org>

Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>   
>>>>> In this case the dyn-tick minimum res will be 1msec. I believe it should
>>>>> work ok since this is the case without any dyn-tick.
>>>>>      
>>>>>           
>>>> Actually minimum resolution depends on host HZ setting, but - yes -
>>>> essentially you have the same behaviour of the "unix" timer, plus the
>>>> overhead of reprogramming the timer. 
>>>>    
>>>>         
>>> Is this significant?  At a high guest HZ, this is could be quite a lot
>>> of additional syscalls right?
>>>
>>>       
>> At HZ=1000, this adds a small multiple of 1000 syscalls, which is a 
>> fairly small overhead.
>>     
>
> Small, but maybe measurable.
>
> That overhead could be removed if the dyn-tick code were to
> predictively set the host timer into a repeating mode when guests do
> actually require a regular tick.
>
> I'm thinking when it detects it needed a tick a small number of times
> in a row, with the same interval, it could set the host timer to
> trigger repeatedly at that interval.  Then it wouldn't need to reprogram
> if that stayed the same (except maybe to correct for drift?)
>
> If a tick then _wasn't_ required for that interval (i.e. it was
> required for less, more, or not at all), then it would have to
> reprogram the host timer.  If it really mattered, it wouldn't have to
> reprogram the host timer when the next required tick is further in the
> future or not at all; it would simply be a redundant SIGALRM.  In
> weird cases that's worthwhile, but I suspect it generally isn't.
>
>   

Yes, good thinking, but this should only be done if it actually impacts 
something.  Reducing overhead from 0.1% to 0.05% is not worthwhile if it 
introduces extra complexity.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-19 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-17 23:11 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] Rework alarm timer infrastrucure - take 2 Luca Tettamanti
2007-08-17 23:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] Rework alarm timer infrastrucure Luca Tettamanti
2007-08-17 23:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] Add -clock option Luca Tettamanti
2007-08-17 23:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] Add support for HPET periodic timer Luca Tettamanti
2007-08-21 19:24   ` Matthew Kent
2007-08-21 19:40     ` Luca
2007-08-21 20:15       ` Matthew Kent
2007-08-22  6:48         ` [kvm-devel] " Dan Kenigsberg
2007-08-22  7:03           ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-22 12:34             ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-22 21:11               ` Dan Kenigsberg
2007-08-22 22:09                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-23  7:02                   ` Dan Kenigsberg
2007-08-24 20:18                     ` Luca
2007-08-25  8:24                       ` Dan Kenigsberg
2007-09-03  8:40       ` GUERRAZ Francois
2007-08-17 23:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] Add support for dynamic ticks Luca Tettamanti
2007-08-17 23:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] Rework alarm timer infrastrucure - take 2 Christian MICHON
2007-08-18  0:10   ` [kvm-devel] " Luca
2007-08-18 15:17 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2007-08-18 16:53   ` [Qemu-devel] RE: [kvm-devel] [PATCH 0/4] Rework alarm timer infrastrucure - take2 Dor Laor
2007-08-18 22:02     ` [Qemu-devel] " Luca Tettamanti
2007-08-18 23:58       ` Anthony Liguori
2007-08-19  7:36         ` [Qemu-devel] RE: [kvm-devel] [PATCH 0/4] Rework alarm timer infrastrucure -take2 Dor Laor
2007-08-19  8:24         ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] [PATCH 0/4] Rework alarm timer infrastrucure - take2 Avi Kivity
2007-08-19 13:10           ` Jamie Lokier
2007-08-19 13:48             ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2007-08-19 13:57               ` [kvm-devel] [Qemu-devel] " Paul Brook
2007-08-19 14:07                 ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-19 14:27                   ` Dor Laor
2007-08-20  9:25                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-19 17:15                 ` Jamie Lokier
2007-08-19 19:29                   ` [kvm-devel] [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/4] Rework alarmtimer " Dor Laor
2007-08-19 19:30                   ` [kvm-devel] [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/4] Rework alarm timer " Avi Kivity
2007-08-19 16:52       ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Luca
2007-08-19 19:31         ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-20 21:20           ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-08-20 21:55             ` malc
2007-08-20 22:49               ` [kvm-devel] [Qemu-devel] " Luca
2007-08-21 12:09             ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-08-21 19:38               ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-08-21 19:44                 ` malc
2007-08-22  5:02                 ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-22 16:12                   ` Luca Tettamanti
2007-08-22 16:21                     ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-22 16:38                       ` Luca
2007-08-22 16:45                         ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-22 17:23                           ` Luca
2007-08-22 17:39                             ` Luca
2007-08-22 19:21                             ` Luca
2007-08-22 21:35                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Dor Laor
2007-08-22 22:07                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Luca
2007-08-22 20:42                         ` Dan Kenigsberg

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