From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: kvm-devel <kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] expose host CPU features to guests
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:46:07 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46DFBE4F.5080206@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200709060130.03618.paul@codesourcery.com>
Paul Brook wrote:
>>> I think qemu-cvs has a -cpu option for non-x86 which could be used for
>>> this. Agree machine types are the wrong approach.
>>>
>> Yep, machine types are already used to switch between a different concept
>> so using the new -cpu option would make sense. Could perhaps extend the
>> syntax so that instead of '-cpu TYPE' it used '-cpu TYPE,FEATURES' where
>> FEATURES was an optional list of CPU features to allow
>>
>
> I tried this for ARM, and having separate type+features isn't worth the
> effort. The internal implementation is feature based, but IMHO there's little
> benefit exposing that to the user. Just define appropriate CPUs for the
> interesting feature combinations.
>
>
The use case is different. We don't care about the actual features, but
about finding the greatest common denominator in a virtualization farm.
I don't see this as useful for qemu; rather kvm and kqemu.
> Of course the x86 emulation doesn't currently support restricting the
> architecture features available. To make the --cpu option useful you need to
> implement that first.
>
Applications will not use a feature that is not present in cpuid, so
that is not an issue. For the virtualization use case, it is also
impossible to turn off support for a feature.
--
Any sufficiently difficult bug is indistinguishable from a feature.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-06 8:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-05 17:45 [Qemu-devel] expose host CPU features to guests danken
2007-09-05 19:26 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2007-09-05 19:34 ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-05 19:44 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-09-06 0:30 ` Paul Brook
2007-09-06 8:46 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2007-09-07 10:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2007-09-09 7:51 ` [kvm-devel] [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-09-09 12:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2007-09-09 12:55 ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-09 13:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2007-09-09 13:14 ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-09 15:25 ` Paul Brook
2007-09-09 15:29 ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-09 15:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2007-09-09 16:12 ` Paul Brook
2007-09-09 16:38 ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-10 16:53 ` Jamie Lokier
2007-09-10 7:40 ` [Qemu-devel] expose host CPU features to guests: Take 2 Dan Kenigsberg
2007-09-10 11:47 ` Natalia Portillo
2007-09-10 12:01 ` Dan Kenigsberg
2007-09-07 16:18 ` Natalia Portillo
2007-09-11 19:48 ` Luke -Jr
2007-09-10 17:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2007-09-24 17:41 ` [Qemu-devel] expose host CPU features to guests: Take 3 Dan Kenigsberg
2007-09-25 1:28 ` andrzej zaborowski
2007-09-25 8:48 ` [kvm-devel] " Dan Kenigsberg
2007-09-25 9:01 ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-25 9:19 ` J. Mayer
2007-09-25 9:31 ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-25 10:40 ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-25 11:09 ` J. Mayer
2007-09-25 11:36 ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-25 12:05 ` Fabrice Bellard
2007-09-25 13:07 ` Jocelyn Mayer
2007-09-25 13:12 ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-25 13:27 ` Dan Kenigsberg
2007-09-25 15:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2007-09-25 16:15 ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-25 12:51 ` Paul Brook
2007-09-25 13:13 ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-25 9:29 ` Fabrice Bellard
2007-10-07 12:38 ` [Qemu-devel] x86 -cpu option: Take 4 Dan Kenigsberg
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