From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 2/3] virtio network device
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:20:39 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47570817.9090908@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200712051744.03916.paul@codesourcery.com>
Paul Brook wrote:
>>> Actually according to qemu's standard, one should use
>>> cpu_physical_memory_write/ cpu_physical_memory_read functions.
>>> This is true also for reading the ring values.
>>>
>> Yes, and unfortunately, cpu_physical_memory_{read,write} are copy
>> interfaces. We really don't want that for high speed I/O.
>>
>
> I really don't like doing direct access to guest ram without implementing a
> proper API for zero-copy/scatter-gather access. There was a list thread about
> this not so long ago.
>
I agree that we need a proper API for sg ram access. I'm going to look
into that real soon since it's necessary to optimize the network/disk
transports.
virtio makes things a bit trickier though. There's a shared ring queue
between the host and guest. The ring queue is lock-less and depends on
the ability to atomically increment ring queue indices to be SMP safe.
Using a copy-API wouldn't be a problem for QEMU since the host and guest
are always running in lock-step. A copy API is actually needed to deal
with differing host/guest alignment and endianness.
Once you introduce KVM though, this is no longer true since KVM supports
true SMP. The solution may be to implement some sort of
atomic_increment function and then have that use a if (kvm) guard to do
a direct access verses a copy.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> Paul
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-05 20:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-04 21:54 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] virtio network device Anthony Liguori
2007-12-04 22:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-04 23:49 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dor Laor
2007-12-05 17:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-05 17:44 ` Paul Brook
2007-12-05 20:20 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2007-12-06 9:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2007-12-08 13:22 ` Paul Brook
2007-12-08 14:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2007-12-08 16:45 ` Paul Brook
2007-12-08 19:52 ` Blue Swirl
2007-12-08 21:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2007-12-08 22:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-12 1:24 ` Rusty Russell
2007-12-12 1:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-12-18 2:31 ` Rusty Russell
2007-12-08 21:59 ` Anthony Liguori
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