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From: Fabrice Bellard <fabrice@bellard.org>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu cpu-all.h exec.c
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:53:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <477D1309.6000200@bellard.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f43fc5580801030757q1428a13cu6be9d74f7d911dde@mail.gmail.com>

Blue Swirl wrote:
> On 1/3/08, Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com> wrote:
>> On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Blue Swirl wrote:
>>> On 1/2/08, Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com> wrote:
>>>>> Also the opaque parameter may need to be different for each function,
>>>>> it just didn't matter for the unassigned memory case.
>>>> Do you really have systems where independent devices need to respond to
>>>> different sized accesses to the same address?
>>> I don't think so. But one day unassigned or even normal RAM memory
>>> access may need an opaque parameter, so passing the device's opaque to
>>> unassigned memory handler is wrong.
>> I'm not convinced.  Your current implementation seems to introduce an extra
>> level of indirection without any plausible benefit.
>>
>> If you're treating unassigned memory differently it needs to be handled much
>> earlier that so you can raise CPU exceptions.
> 
> Earlier, where's that?
> 
> Another approach could be conditional stacked handlers, where a higher
> level handler could pass the access request to lower one (possibly
> modifying it in flight) or handle completely. Maybe this solves the
> longstanding generic DMA issue if taken to the device to memory
> direction.

As I said earlier, the only correct way to handle memory accesses is to 
be able to consider a memory range and its associated I/O callbacks as 
an object which can be installed _and_ removed. It implies that there is 
a priority system close to what you described. It is essential to 
correct long standing PCI bugs for example.

Regards,

Fabrice.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-03 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-01 16:57 [Qemu-devel] qemu cpu-all.h exec.c Blue Swirl
2008-01-01 21:42 ` Fabrice Bellard
2008-01-02 16:42   ` Blue Swirl
2008-01-02 17:18     ` Paul Brook
2008-01-02 17:31       ` Blue Swirl
2008-01-03  1:18         ` Paul Brook
2008-01-03 15:57           ` Blue Swirl
2008-01-03 16:12             ` Paul Brook
2008-01-03 16:53             ` Fabrice Bellard [this message]
2008-01-03 19:44               ` Blue Swirl
2008-01-03 20:16                 ` Paul Brook
2008-01-04 20:36                   ` Blue Swirl
2008-01-04 22:43                     ` Paul Brook
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-05-26 17:36 Blue Swirl
2007-04-04  7:55 Jocelyn Mayer
2005-10-30 20:48 Fabrice Bellard
2005-02-10 21:56 Fabrice Bellard

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