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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] bdrv_flush error handling
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:01:33 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47BC790D.40409@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080220182252.GH14209@redhat.com>

Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 04:31:56PM +0000, Jamie Lokier wrote:
>   
>> Ian Jackson wrote:
>>     
>>> Paul Brook writes ("Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] bdrv_flush error handling"):
>>>       
>>>> Disk full is a fundamentally unfriendly situation to be in. There is no good 
>>>> answer. Reporting errors back to the host has its own set of problems. Many 
>>>> guest OS effectively just lock up when this occurs.
>>>>         
>>> I think that's fine, surely ?  A locked up guest isn't very nice but
>>> it's better than a guest shot dead.
>>>       
>> Well, a guest which receives an IDE write error might do things like
>> mark parts of the device bad, to avoiding writing to those parts.  If
>> the guest is running software RAID, for example, it will radically
>> change its behaviour in response to those errors.
>>
>> Sometimes that's what you want, but sometimes it is really unwanted.
>> If the host runs out of disk space, ideally you might want to suspend
>> the guest until you can free up host disk space (or move to another
>> host), then resume the guest, perhaps manually.
>>
>> Is savevm-upon-disk-full a realistic prospect?
>>     
>
> In the 'out of disk space' scenario you wouldn't need to save the guest - merely
> stop its CPU. This gives the host admin the opportunity to hot-add storage
> to the host & then resume execution, or to kill the VM, or to free enough
> space to save the VM to disk / live migrate it to another host. 
>   

I agree.  Stopping the CPUs and spitting out a big fat warning message 
would be the best thing to do.  For the average user, this would give 
the opportunity to free up some space if possible.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Shooting it dead on any I/O error doesn't give the host admin any choices
> at all
>
> Dan.
>   

  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-20 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-20 15:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] bdrv_flush error handling Ian Jackson
2008-02-20 16:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-02-20 16:13   ` Ian Jackson
2008-02-20 16:19   ` Paul Brook
2008-02-20 16:23     ` Avi Kivity
2008-02-20 16:37       ` Ian Jackson
2008-02-20 16:46         ` Paul Brook
2008-02-20 16:53           ` Ian Jackson
2008-02-20 16:31             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-20 18:17               ` Paul Brook
2008-02-20 16:38                 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-02-20 18:22               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-02-20 19:01                 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2008-02-20 19:55                   ` Rick Vernam
2008-02-21  7:10                     ` Thomas Irlet
2008-02-21 17:19   ` Ben Taylor
2008-02-21 17:24     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-02-21 17:28       ` risc
2008-02-21 18:24         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-03-28 17:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Ian Jackson
2008-04-26 15:15   ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-04-29 16:27     ` Ian Jackson

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