From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@suse.de>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] Reboot CPU on triple fault
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:53:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4805CC9B.7050809@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080416092340.GA27898@shareable.org>
Jamie Lokier schrieb:
> Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>> IMHO There's no reason to print a message to stderr. This is all
>>> well defined behavior, and the accepted way of exiting from 286
>>> protected mode.
>> How many users does qemu have who need triple faults to exit from 286
>> Protected Mode?
>
> Not many, only those users running old MS-DOS apps / OSes.
MS-DOS is running in Real Mode, you'd additionally need an application
which uses 286 PM. Apparently there aren't too many users relying on
triple faults as in the past qemu aborted (or in earlier versions even
hung) on triple faults and nobody complained.
>> And how many users does it have who don't use triple
>> faults (yes, it's called a fault, not a PM exiting feature)
>
> Faults don't mean errors. Think about page faults.
Ok, you're right on my wording. But double faults (which always occur
before a triple fault) are in fact despite their name not faults, but
aborts. Just to reword it using the correct terminology. ;-)
>> And honestly, a message on stderr really shouldn't hurt those 286 folks.
>
> For old MS-DOS apps / OSes, I have the impression this can happen
> hundreds of times per second. It's part of task context switching and
> BIOS calls.
I have to admit that I'm all but an 286 PM expert. What exactly is a
triple fault doing there? If it leads to a reset as implemented here, I
can hardly imagine that it is of much use in regular context switching.
Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-16 9:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-29 18:13 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Reboot CPU on triple fault Hervé Poussineau
2008-03-30 1:36 ` Alexander Graf
2008-03-31 9:52 ` Kevin Wolf
2008-04-15 16:05 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-04-15 16:57 ` Paul Brook
2008-04-16 8:37 ` Kevin Wolf
2008-04-16 9:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-16 9:51 ` Antoine Kaufmann
2008-04-16 9:53 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2008-04-16 10:17 ` Michal Schulz
2008-04-16 10:25 ` Michal Schulz
2008-04-16 12:08 ` Kevin Wolf
2008-04-16 10:22 ` Jan Kiszka
2008-04-16 11:34 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-16 14:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-16 8:18 ` Kevin Wolf
2008-04-16 12:02 ` Jan Kiszka
2008-04-16 12:09 ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-16 12:36 ` Kevin Wolf
2008-04-16 12:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-16 12:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] x86: Reboot CPU on triple fault - Version 3 Jan Kiszka
2008-04-16 13:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] x86: Reboot CPU on triple fault - Version 4 Kevin Wolf
2008-04-16 14:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-04-16 14:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] x86: Reboot CPU on triple fault - Version 5 Kevin Wolf
2008-04-16 14:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] x86: Reboot CPU on triple fault - Version 6 Kevin Wolf
2008-04-17 9:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-04-18 14:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-04-21 11:53 ` Kevin Wolf
2008-05-26 14:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-05-27 16:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] x86: Reboot CPU on triple fault - Version 8 Jan Kiszka
2008-05-27 16:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-04-16 14:37 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] x86: Reboot CPU on triple fault - Version 4 Anthony Liguori
2008-04-17 8:07 ` Jan Kiszka
2008-04-17 12:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-17 14:10 ` Jan Kiszka
2008-04-17 18:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-17 19:24 ` Jan Kiszka
2008-04-18 8:38 ` Kevin Wolf
2008-04-18 14:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-21 9:37 ` Kevin Wolf
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