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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] x86: Reboot CPU on triple fault - Version 4
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:24:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4807A3E2.4070203@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4807972C.8030807@codemonkey.ws>

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Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>  
>>> Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>     You can always check within the guest to see if it's rebooted (via
>>> uptime for instance).
>>>     
>>
>> But you won't find the CPU state on triple fault there.
>>   
> 
> Nor will you with your patch.

Provided "-d cpu_reset" with Kevin's last patch, they are. I tried it,
it worked, that's why I acked it.

> 
>>> It's extremely unlikely you'll ever see an OS triple fault in the wild
>>> unless you're doing kernel development.  Triple faulting requires a bad
>>> IDT or a really bad page table both of which are not something an OS is
>>> likely to do by accident.  If your OS is triple faulting, I highly doubt
>>> it's just going to reboot and everything's going to be okay.
>>>     
>>
>> There are various OSes out there in the wild. Not all of them conform to
>> common assumptions about how OSes typically look like. And once you
>> start moving things under a different roof (like QEMU), you are better
>> off logging such /potentially/ critical events (specifically if that
>> roof is a bit smaller due to missing segment limit and type checks).
>> That's at least our situation ATM.
>>   
> 
> It's not a question of whether it's logged, it's a question of whether
> it gets logged *specially*.  That's the crux of the discussion here.  My
> argument is that triple faults are not sufficiently special that they
> warrant *special* logging.

Depends on the POV. But I really think we loose nothing with the latest
patch, rather gain a useful feature for certain (granted) corner cases.

Jan


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  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-17 19:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-29 18:13 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Reboot CPU on triple fault Hervé Poussineau
2008-03-30  1:36 ` Alexander Graf
2008-03-31  9:52   ` Kevin Wolf
2008-04-15 16:05     ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-04-15 16:57       ` Paul Brook
2008-04-16  8:37         ` Kevin Wolf
2008-04-16  9:23           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-16  9:51             ` Antoine Kaufmann
2008-04-16  9:53             ` Kevin Wolf
2008-04-16 10:17               ` Michal Schulz
2008-04-16 10:25                 ` Michal Schulz
2008-04-16 12:08                 ` Kevin Wolf
2008-04-16 10:22               ` Jan Kiszka
2008-04-16 11:34               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-16 14:44         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-16  8:18       ` Kevin Wolf
2008-04-16 12:02         ` Jan Kiszka
2008-04-16 12:09           ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-16 12:36           ` Kevin Wolf
2008-04-16 12:57             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-04-16 12:44       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] x86: Reboot CPU on triple fault - Version 3 Jan Kiszka
2008-04-16 13:35         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] x86: Reboot CPU on triple fault - Version 4 Kevin Wolf
2008-04-16 14:18           ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-04-16 14:33             ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] x86: Reboot CPU on triple fault - Version 5 Kevin Wolf
2008-04-16 14:57               ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] x86: Reboot CPU on triple fault - Version 6 Kevin Wolf
2008-04-17  9:52                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-04-18 14:06                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-04-21 11:53                   ` Kevin Wolf
2008-05-26 14:46                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-05-27 16:01                       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] x86: Reboot CPU on triple fault - Version 8 Jan Kiszka
2008-05-27 16:17                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-04-16 14:37           ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] x86: Reboot CPU on triple fault - Version 4 Anthony Liguori
2008-04-17  8:07             ` Jan Kiszka
2008-04-17 12:49               ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-17 14:10                 ` Jan Kiszka
2008-04-17 18:30                   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-17 19:24                     ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2008-04-18  8:38                     ` Kevin Wolf
2008-04-18 14:08                       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-21  9:37                         ` Kevin Wolf

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