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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, hreitz@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH experiment 00/16] C++20 coroutine backend
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 18:50:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <480950c3-b83a-f421-a3d1-0369a69aa70b@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YjC7sorD36xWfhHD@redhat.com>

On 3/15/22 17:15, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> Bear with me as I suggest something potentially/probably silly
> given my limited knowledge of C++ coroutines.
> 
> Given a function I know about:
> 
>    void coroutine_fn qio_channel_yield(QIOChannel *ioc,
>                                        GIOCondition condition);
> 
> IIUC, you previously indicated that the header file declaration,
> the implementation and any callers of this would need to be in
> C++ source files.
> 
> The caller is what I'm most curious about, because I feel that
> is where the big ripple effects come into play that cause large
> parts of QEMU to become C++ code. [...]
> I presume there is something special about the CoroutineFn<void>
> prototype preventing that from working as needed, thus requiring
> the caller to be compiled as C++ ? IIUC compiling as C++ though
> is not neccessarily the same as using C++ linkage.

Yes, the CoroutineFn<void> function must either be passed to 
qemu_coroutine_create() or called as "co_await f()".  If you call it as 
"f()" it does nothing except leak the memory needed by its stack frame, 
so that only leaves passing the function to qemu_coroutine_create().

I suppose you could do some games with typedefs, like

#ifdef __cplusplus
typedef CoroutineFn<void> VoidCoroutine
#else
typedef struct VoidCoroutine VoidCoroutine;
#endif

to be able to declare a function that returns CoroutineFn<void> but I'm 
not sure of the advantage.

> So I'm assuming the caller as C++ requirement is not recursive,
> otherwise it would immediately mean all of QEMU needs to be C++.

Right, qemu_coroutine_create() must be called from C++ but the caller of 
qemu_coroutine_create() can be extern "C".  In the particular case of 
the block layer, callers of qemu_coroutine_create() include 
callback-based functions such as bdrv_aio_readv(), and synchronous 
functions such as bdrv_flush().  Both of these can be called from C.

> IOW, can we get it such that the C++ bit is just a thin shim
> "C -> C++ wrapper -> C++ CoroutineFn -> C", enabling all the
> C++ bits to be well encapsulated and thus prevent arbitrary
> usage of C++ features leaking all across the codebase ?

No, unfortunately not.  But in particular, even though the block layer 
would be C++, device models that use it would not.

Paolo


      reply	other threads:[~2022-03-15 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-14  9:31 [PATCH experiment 00/16] C++20 coroutine backend Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14  9:31 ` [PATCH experiment 01/16] coroutine: add missing coroutine_fn annotations for CoRwlock functions Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14  9:31 ` [PATCH experiment 02/16] coroutine: qemu_coroutine_get_aio_context is not a coroutine_fn Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14  9:31 ` [PATCH experiment 03/16] coroutine: small code cleanup in qemu_co_rwlock_wrlock Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14 13:32   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2022-03-14  9:31 ` [PATCH experiment 04/16] coroutine: introduce QemuCoLockable Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14  9:31 ` [PATCH experiment 05/16] port atomic.h to C++ Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14  9:31 ` [PATCH experiment 06/16] use g_new0 instead of g_malloc0 Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14 11:16   ` Markus Armbruster
2022-03-14  9:31 ` [PATCH experiment 07/16] start porting compiler.h to C++ Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14  9:31 ` [PATCH experiment 08/16] tracetool: add extern "C" around generated headers Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14 13:33   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2022-03-14 13:44     ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14  9:31 ` [PATCH experiment 09/16] start adding extern "C" markers Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14  9:31 ` [PATCH experiment 10/16] add space between liter and string macro Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14  9:31 ` [PATCH experiment 11/16] bump to C++20 Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14  9:31 ` [PATCH experiment 12/16] remove "new" keyword from trace-events Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14 13:30   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2022-03-14  9:32 ` [PATCH experiment 13/16] disable some code Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14  9:32 ` [PATCH experiment 14/16] util: introduce C++ stackless coroutine backend Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14 14:37   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-03-14 19:36     ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14  9:32 ` [PATCH experiment 15/16] port QemuCoLockable to C++ coroutines Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14  9:32 ` [PATCH experiment 16/16] port test-coroutine " Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14 14:07 ` [PATCH experiment 00/16] C++20 coroutine backend Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-03-14 16:21   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14 19:51     ` Richard Henderson
2022-03-15 14:05     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-03-15 14:24       ` Peter Maydell
2022-03-15 17:29         ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-16 12:32           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-03-16 13:06             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-03-16 16:44               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-03-17 15:11             ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-17 15:53               ` Hanna Reitz
2022-03-31 11:37                 ` Markus Armbruster
2022-03-15 14:50       ` Kevin Wolf
2022-03-15 15:35         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-03-15 15:55         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-03-15 23:08           ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-16 12:40             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-03-16 16:15               ` Kevin Wolf
2022-03-17 12:16             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-03-17 12:51             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-03-31 11:52           ` Markus Armbruster
2022-03-15 17:23         ` When and how to use C++ (was Re: [PATCH experiment 00/16] C++20 coroutine backend) Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-14 16:52 ` [PATCH experiment 00/16] C++20 coroutine backend Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-03-15  9:05   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-15  9:32     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-03-15 17:27       ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-15 18:12         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-03-15 16:15 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-03-15 17:50   ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]

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