From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [4261] Errors while registering ioports are not fatal (Glauber Costa).
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:09:59 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48139A27.2030601@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200804262154.06555.paul@codesourcery.com>
Paul Brook wrote:
>>> I fail to see how hotplugging or proxing has anything to do with it. IO
>>> port registration is not something that can reasonably fail.
>>>
>>> If the real problem is that we can't cope with multiple devices
>>> registering the same IO port than you need to fix that. Blindly punting
>>> to the caller to
>>>
>> There is no fix for that. You can't have two devices that use the same
>> IO port.
>>
>
> You probably can't meaningfully access the IO port. However I think the
> registration itself should be allowed.
>
> The device shouldn't have to handle this. Just like real hardware doesn't.
>
We can be better than real hardware here. In the ISA days, having to
manually configure a cards IRQ lines to avoid conflicts was a huge pain
for users. This is not behavior we should strive to emulate :-)
> If you configure two devices with the same IO port I'd expect writes to go to
> one or both of them, or cause a CPU fault. Just like when you have
> overlapping memory ranges. The device doesn't suddenly disappear in a puff of
> smoke because the OS assigned overlapping IO ranges.
>
The issue isn't the guest OS assigning overlapping IO regions. The
issues is that some devices (like IDE), register ioports directly
independently of PCI regions.
>>> cope is IMHO not an acceptable solution, especially when none of the
>>> callers check the return value.
>>>
>> IO port range conflicts can still happen even with PCI devices. Two PCI
>> IDE controllers would conflict with each other for instance. It's much
>> more likely with ISA of course but it's still possible. register_ioport
>> really should have a return code and callers should actively be checking
>> it.
>>
>
> This is why bouncing the error to the device is the wrong thing to do.
> Once the OS resolves the conflict I'd expect the remaining device to just
> work.
>
I don't know how hardware normally handles this. If this is how normal
hardware works, then we should emulate that. It's also true though that
exit()'ing in register_ioport is the wrong thing to do though.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> Paul
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-26 21:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-26 16:04 [Qemu-devel] [4261] Errors while registering ioports are not fatal (Glauber Costa) Andrzej Zaborowski
2008-04-26 19:26 ` Paul Brook
2008-04-26 19:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-26 19:57 ` Paul Brook
2008-04-26 20:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-26 20:45 ` Glauber Costa
2008-04-26 19:57 ` andrzej zaborowski
2008-04-26 20:08 ` Paul Brook
2008-04-26 20:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-26 20:54 ` Paul Brook
2008-04-26 21:09 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2008-04-26 21:29 ` Paul Brook
2008-04-26 20:39 ` Glauber Costa
2008-04-26 20:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-04-26 21:18 ` andrzej zaborowski
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