From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
Laurent Vivier <Laurent.Vivier@bull.net>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH][v2] Align file accesses with cache=off (O_DIRECT)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 17:17:41 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48342F05.2090603@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <483429EB.7070705@codemonkey.ws>
Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
> "cached" is not a terribly accurate term. O_DIRECT avoids the host
> page cache but it doesn't guarantee that the disk is using
> write-through. For that, you need to use hdparm.
>
> O_SYNC basically turns the host page cache into a write-through
> cache. In terms of data integrity, the only question that matters is
> whether you're misleading the guest into thinking data is on the disk
> when it isn't. Both O_DIRECT and O_SYNC accomplish this.
>
> If you just are concerned with data integrity, O_SYNC is probably
> better because you get the benefits of host caching. O_DIRECT is
> really for circumstances where you know that using the host page cache
> is going to reduce performance.
In one specific circumstance O_SYNC has data integrity problems: shared
disks with guests running on different hosts (or even a guest on one
host, sharing a disk with another host). In these cases, two reads can
return different values without an intervening write.
In the general case, O_DIRECT gives better performance. It avoids
copying from the host pagecache to guest memory, and if you have spare
memory to benefit from caching, give it to the guest; the nearer to the
data consumer the cache is, the faster it performs.
In one specific case O_SYNC (or regular read/write cached operation) is
better, rebooting the same guest over and over, as the guest cache is
flushed on reboot. Not a very interesting case, but unfortunately one
that is very visible.
(if you have a backing file for a COW disk, then opening the backing
file without O_DIRECT may be a good idea too, as the file can be shared
among many guests).
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-21 14:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-20 11:32 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH][v2] Align file accesses with cache=off (O_DIRECT) Laurent Vivier
2008-05-20 19:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-05-20 22:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-20 22:52 ` Paul Brook
2008-05-20 22:59 ` Laurent Vivier
2008-05-21 0:54 ` Paul Brook
2008-05-21 7:59 ` Laurent Vivier
2008-05-21 0:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-05-21 1:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-21 1:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-05-21 8:06 ` Kevin Wolf
2008-05-21 1:05 ` Paul Brook
2008-05-21 1:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-05-21 8:24 ` Kevin Wolf
2008-05-21 12:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-21 12:37 ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-21 13:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-21 13:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-05-21 14:17 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-05-21 14:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-05-21 14:57 ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-21 15:34 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-21 16:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-05-21 16:24 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-21 16:48 ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-21 17:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-21 17:18 ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-21 17:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-21 17:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-05-21 18:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-21 18:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-05-21 20:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-21 20:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-05-21 20:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-05-21 18:29 ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-21 16:45 ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-21 16:44 ` Avi Kivity
2008-05-20 23:04 ` Laurent Vivier
2008-05-20 23:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-21 1:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-05-21 1:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-21 2:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-05-21 8:27 ` Andreas Färber
2008-05-21 14:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-05-21 15:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-21 11:43 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-23 9:12 ` Laurent Vivier
2008-05-28 7:01 ` Kevin Wolf
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