From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] An organizational suggestion
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:54:25 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48457741.9070302@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18501.25321.636839.502256@mariner.uk.xensource.com>
Ian Jackson wrote:
> Jamie Lokier writes ("Re: [Qemu-devel] An organizational suggestion"):
>
>> It's the Linus Torvalds school of flow control. If you don't get a
>> reply, try again.
>>
>
> I see. That seems rather rude to me, so I don't do it. Am I really
> supposed to keep a list of my outstanding patches and retransmit them
> like some kind of bandwidth-hogging peer-to-peer application ?
>
The DCO process can really help here. The simple fact is that most of
the committers to QEMU are not paid to be full-time maintainers. As
such, their time is limited. There is a lot of noise on qemu-devel
(this thread being a good example ;-)).
If you review a patch, and are happy with it, offer an Acked-by. When
comitters go through reviewing patches to commit, it makes it much
easier for them to determine whether a patch should be committed or not.
> If everyone did that, then the number of patches accepted would go
> down rather than up, surely ? Because everyone would be spending
> their time wading through all these resends, rather than paying
> attention to the content.
>
Try marking the subject with [RESEND]. Quite a lot of projects require
patches to be resent. In fact, in the early days of Xen, this was often
the case. [RESEND] tends to be a polite way to help maintainers be more
responsive too.
> Also - implicit in your comment that it's a form of `flow control' is
> that it's caused by a lack of upstream capacity. I think that part is
> very true. We do have a lack of capacity, which can be solved in this
> case by adding one or more people I think.
>
There are already a lot of committers in QEMU. There are 9 people with
commit access to QEMU. There is only 1 person with commit access to KVM
and that includes a full copy of QEMU. What's needed is someone to take
the time, on a day-by-day basis, to review patches, and queue them.
Magnus posted a list of outstanding patches a while ago, I think that's
the right approach. I'll spend some time today to try and collect
outstanding patches.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> Qemu is not a very large project in the grand scheme of things, and we
> can hopefully avoid the kind of very cumbersome and heavyweight
> processes which surround the Linux kernel.
>
> Ian.
>
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-03 16:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-03 5:42 [Qemu-devel] An organizational suggestion Balazs Attila-Mihaly (Cd-MaN)
2008-06-03 9:27 ` Ian Jackson
2008-06-03 10:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 10:19 ` Ian Jackson
2008-06-03 11:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 12:32 ` Ian Jackson
2008-06-03 13:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-06-03 14:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 22:24 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-06-03 13:45 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-03 14:02 ` Ian Jackson
2008-06-03 14:35 ` Paul Brook
2008-06-03 14:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 14:55 ` Paul Brook
2008-06-03 15:14 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 14:54 ` Laurent Vivier
2008-06-03 15:04 ` Ian Jackson
2008-06-03 15:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 15:27 ` Ian Jackson
2008-06-03 16:54 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2008-06-03 19:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-03 15:24 ` Laurent Vivier
2008-06-03 20:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-06-03 20:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-06-03 10:23 ` Andreas Färber
2008-06-03 11:09 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-06-03 12:36 ` Ian Jackson
2008-06-03 12:48 ` Daniel P. Berrange
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-06-03 10:11 [Qemu-devel] " Balazs Attila-Mihaly (Cd-MaN)
2008-06-03 15:36 Balazs Attila-Mihaly (Cd-MaN)
2008-06-03 16:59 ` Andreas Färber
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