From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K3d6z-0005qM-IJ for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:28:05 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K3d6x-0005pR-UJ for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:28:05 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52350 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K3d6x-0005pK-Ma for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:28:03 -0400 Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com ([64.233.178.241]:45877) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K3d6x-00076O-Rc for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:28:03 -0400 Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k27so1503761hsc.2 for ; Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4845A946.8090702@codemonkey.ws> Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:27:50 -0500 From: Anthony Liguori MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] An organizational suggestion References: <193307.64140.qm@web57014.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <18501.3725.422151.796839@mariner.uk.xensource.com> <20080603100036.GA25740@shareable.org> <18501.6823.92589.960622@mariner.uk.xensource.com> <18501.20210.209142.106241@mariner.uk.xensource.com> In-Reply-To: <18501.20210.209142.106241@mariner.uk.xensource.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org Cc: Ian Jackson Ian Jackson wrote: > Johannes Schindelin writes ("Re: [Qemu-devel] An organizational suggestion"): > >> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008, Ian Jackson wrote: >> >>> Jamie Lokier writes ("Re: [Qemu-devel] An organizational suggestion"): >>> >>>> Perhaps it's simply not enough people are paid to do this and >>>> volunteers have other interests. From what I've seen elsewhere, patch >>>> tracking doesn't help much if there's nobody actively working on >>>> integration and setting overall vision/direction. >>>> >>> Well, I'm certainly willing. Perhaps I haven't made my availability >>> clear enough. >>> >> From the commit messages on trunk and a summarizing shortlog of the >> committers, it is relatively easy to see that frequent contributors became >> committers, because they earned trust. >> >> From my short analysis, the most obvious candidates are: [...] >> > > It is obviously for the current team to decide who they trust, and I > won't be offended if that turns out not to be me. I was offering - > because Jamie suggested that there was a lack of willing volunteers - > and certainly not demanding. > > But I do think it is important that we have _some_ new committer(s) > who are keen to do the kind of routine patch review and inclusion, > which is sadly currently not getting the necessary prompt attention. > I just spent an hour or so going through patches from the last two weeks. Quite a few have already been merged. Of the dozen or so that weren't merged, I only counted 2 that were mergable in their current form, and they were both one liners. More patch review is needed. We can all help out here. Go through patches and comment on them. When you are satisfied and would apply them yourself, offer an Acked-by or Reviewed-by tag. It'll become obvious to the current maintainers who has good taste and will also make it easier for them to commit patches. The problem is definitely lack of patch review, not how quickly good patches are being committed. Regards, Anthony Liguori > Ian. > > >