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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [4799] Add instruction counter.
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:54:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4867942C.205@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200806291416.06603.paul@codesourcery.com>

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Paul Brook wrote:
>> On the first glance this function looked like it could serve as an
>> alternative to SSTEP_INTERNAL and provide the required roll-back on
>> watchpoint hit. But looking closer I realized that icount_decr is only
>> maintained if use_icount is set.
> 
> I'm fairly sure limiting the length of the TB and actual instruction counting 
> are largely independent. IIUC you only need the former.

But to calculate the former, you need the latter again. I wonder if it
wouldn't be more efficient and flexible to specify a terminating PC
instead of an instruction count. Wouldn't that make cpu_io_recompile
independent of icount_decr and, thus, use_icount?

> 
>> I do not yet get why you were forced to go a different path for
>> cpu_io_recompile, ie. rebuilding and (re-executing?) the whole TB up to
>> the instruction that caused the IO access instead of just regenerating a
>> single-insn TB for that purpose. Is it more efficient?
> 
> Generating a single insn IO TB is a good idea for resolving the current fault. 
> This is what the comment at the end of cpu_io_recompile is referring to.
> 
> Regenerating a truncated version of the original version of the TB is 
> important for subsequent execution of that block.  MMIO accesses occur 
> frequently in loops when the guest is checking status bits or accessing a 
> FIFO.  Recompiling the TB means that subsequent accesses complete with 
> minimal overhead. If we didn't recompile then every access would incur a 
> (very expensive) trap+unwind+singlestep.
> 
> The type of access can't be determined statically (it's a property of the 
> address being accesses, not the instruction itself). However I'd expect that 
> most accesses always access wither RAM or MMIO spaces in practice, so 
> recompiling when we see an IO access is a reasonable compromise.

OK, understood.

> 
>> But if use_icount is off by default, I guess this doesn't come for free
>> either... 
> 
> See above. cpu_io_recompile is used to get precise delivery of interrupts. 
> This is required for but not dependent on having deterministic timing (i.e. 
> use_icount).

Watchpoints, specifically guest-injected ones, require deterministic
exception delivery as well. So I would like to reuse existing
infrastructure that already solved a similar problem.

Jan


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  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-29 13:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-29  1:03 [Qemu-devel] [4799] Add instruction counter Paul Brook
     [not found] ` <6D074CEF-5086-4301-A19C-F1E76E6B313D@hotmail.com>
2008-06-29  4:44   ` C.W. Betts
2008-06-29  9:58 ` Laurent Desnogues
2008-06-29 11:57   ` J. Mayer
2008-06-29 12:28     ` Paul Brook
2008-06-29 13:12       ` J. Mayer
2008-06-29 18:44   ` Stuart Brady
2008-06-29 12:37 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2008-06-29 13:16   ` Paul Brook
2008-06-29 13:54     ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2008-06-29 14:31       ` Paul Brook
2008-07-10 23:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Robert Reif
2008-07-11 16:42   ` Blue Swirl
2008-07-11 16:59   ` Julian Seward

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