From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] qcow2 - safe on kill? safe on power fail?
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:08:02 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4885E9C2.9080209@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <488578CA.4000402@qumranet.com>
Avi Kivity wrote:
> Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>
>> Sure you can. If you don't have a battery backed disk cache and are
>> using write-back (which is usually the default), you can definitely
>> get corruption of the journal. Likewise, under the right scenarios,
>> you will get journal corruption with the default mount options of
>> ext3 because it doesn't use barriers.
>>
>
> What about SCSI or SATA NCQ? On these, barriers don't impact
> performance greatly.
Good question, I don't know the answer. But ext3 doesn't autodetect
SCSI/NCQ or anything. It disabled barriers by default. Some distros
have changed this behavior historically (SLES I believe).
>> This is very hard to see happen in practice though because these
>> windows are very small--just like with QEMU.
>>
>
> The exposure window with qemu is not small. It's as large as the page
> cache of the host.
Note I was careful to qualify my statements that cache=off was required.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-22 14:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-05 21:18 [Qemu-devel] Signal handling and qcow2 image corruption David Barrett
2008-03-05 21:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-03-05 23:48 ` David Barrett
2008-03-06 6:57 ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-21 18:10 ` [Qemu-devel] qcow2 - safe on kill? safe on power fail? Jamie Lokier
2008-07-21 19:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-07-21 21:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-21 22:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-07-21 23:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-22 6:06 ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-22 14:08 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2008-07-22 14:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-22 19:11 ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-22 14:32 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-21 22:00 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-07-21 22:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-07-21 22:22 ` David Barrett
2008-07-21 22:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-07-22 6:07 ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-22 14:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-07-22 14:36 ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-22 16:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-22 19:13 ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-22 20:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-22 21:25 ` Avi Kivity
2008-07-22 14:22 ` Jamie Lokier
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