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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@qumranet.com>, Chris Lalancette <clalance@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/3]: Add UUID command-line option
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:02:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <488E17E0.6010701@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080728162828.GA14004@shareable.org>

Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Anthony Liguori wrote:
>   
>>> CMOS has enough memory for UUID, but UUID is not the only thing that
>>> needs to be passed to BIOS, so eventually we can run out of space there.
>>>  
>>>       
>> I'm inclined to think that on a real machine, the UUID is stored in the 
>> CMOS.
>>     
>
> I'd imagine on a real machine the UUID cannot be changed, so it can't
> be stored in the CMOS.  It's probably in the BIOS somewhere.
>   

It may be part of the ROM that gets written to CMOS when you "reset to 
factory defaults".  I can think of a number of advantages to storing it 
in CMOS.

> I quick Google suggests at least some systems store it in the SMBIOS
> information, which is part of the BIOS EEPROM.

Well it definitely is part of the SMBIOS tables.  The question is 
whether those tables are dynamically generated.  I'm pretty sure they 
are for certain BIOSes.

> For testing guest ACPI implementations or changing their behaviour? :-)
>   

Sounds like a fantastic way for a user to shoot themselves in the foot.  
If you care to do this sort of work, you can certainly recompile the 
BIOS.  The source is there afterall.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>> You can not arbitrarily extend the backdoor interface.  It's an 
>> interface defined and controlled by VMware.  If you extend it, you risk 
>> breaking other OSes that are assuming that interface has a different 
>> meaning.
>>     
>
> I agree, better to define a sensible interface if extensions are
> desired.
>
> Probably at least one other VM has defined such a thing, it would be
> good to copy if there is one and it's extensible.
>
> -- Jamie
>
>
>   

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-28 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-28 13:25 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3]: Add UUID command-line option Chris Lalancette
2008-07-28 14:15 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2008-07-28 14:37   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-07-28 14:41     ` Chris Lalancette
2008-07-28 15:02       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-07-28 15:09         ` Chris Lalancette
2008-07-28 15:12           ` Anthony Liguori
2008-07-28 15:42             ` Chris Lalancette
2008-07-28 16:02               ` Gleb Natapov
2008-07-28 16:17                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-07-28 16:27                   ` Gleb Natapov
2008-07-28 17:41                     ` Blue Swirl
2008-07-28 16:28                   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-28 19:02                     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2008-07-28 20:00                       ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-28 20:25                         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-07-28 20:40                           ` Paul Brook
2008-07-28 20:55                             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-07-29  6:31                           ` Gleb Natapov
2008-07-28 15:48             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-31 19:45               ` [Qemu-devel] " Sebastian Herbszt
2008-07-28 15:49             ` [Qemu-devel] " Jamie Lokier
2008-07-28 16:06               ` Anthony Liguori
2008-07-28 15:35     ` Gleb Natapov
2008-07-29 19:22       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-07-29 19:50         ` Gleb Natapov
2008-07-30 17:32           ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-05 14:33             ` Gleb Natapov
2008-08-06  2:35               ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-06 16:26                 ` Blue Swirl
2008-08-06 16:33                   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-06 22:07                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Sebastian Herbszt
2008-08-06 22:11                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-07-29  8:15     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-07-29  8:42       ` Chris Lalancette
2008-07-28 15:51   ` Jamie Lokier

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