From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] PATCH: Control over drive open modes for backing file
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:09:27 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48934347.7040102@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18579.15930.393041.733173@mariner.uk.xensource.com>
Ian Jackson wrote:
> Anthony Liguori writes ("Re: [Qemu-devel] PATCH: Control over drive open modes for backing file"):
>
>> Right, but my point is that ,mode=ro does not have to force QEMU to open
>> the file O_RDONLY. It simply needs to prevent writes from happening.
>>
>
> Well, yes, but actually it's probably most reliable to do it that way.
> Given that this is a security feature we want to avoid accidentally
> `missing' a case. So we should definitely open the underlying file(s)
> O_RDONLY.
>
That is an implementation detail, and should be dependent on the
underlying file format. For instance, I completely agree that this
should be the behaviour for raw images. I don't agree that this should
be the behaviour with qcow2 though.
FWIW, this isn't a major security improvement. It's pretty darn easy to
audit the single calling location where a file can be written to :-)
> If we do that then the guest definitely won't be able to write as if
> it manages to persuade qemu to try qemu will just get an error. This
> is fine I think, if we can expose the read-only status to the guest.
>
>
>> But it's important to be able to expose this property to the guest, so
>> ,mode=ro should not be allowed for disks that do not support exposing
>> their read-only-ness to the guest.
>>
>
> I agree that it would be an unusual thing to do, to expose a ro disk
> in a way that doesn't support advertising the ro flag. But I think it
> should still be possible perhaps with some kind of force option.
>
There's no good reason to do this and it's just going to result in
confusing users. You can approximate the same functionality by using
,snapshot=on while giving the guest predictable behaviour.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> Ian.
>
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-01 17:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-31 11:31 [Qemu-devel] PATCH: Control over drive open modes for backing file Daniel P. Berrange
2008-07-31 12:15 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-31 13:08 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-07-31 13:34 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-07-31 13:46 ` Paul Brook
2008-07-31 13:55 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-07-31 15:05 ` Blue Swirl
2008-07-31 16:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-31 16:10 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-07-31 18:07 ` Blue Swirl
2008-07-31 14:58 ` Chris Wedgwood
2008-07-31 18:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-07-31 18:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-07-31 19:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-01 7:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-01 15:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-01 9:18 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-01 14:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-01 16:47 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-01 17:09 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2008-08-01 17:10 ` Jamie Lokier
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