From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/13] set vnc password from xenstore.
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:04:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48AE64F5.3090303@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080821214806.GJ1531@redhat.com>
Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>> Multiple monitor instances would be very useful anyway.
>>
>> Right now there is no way to use the monitor for libvirt-managed qemu
>> instances because libvirt uses the monitor. Being able to both use
>> libvirt *and* have a monitor prompt to type commands would be great.
>
> I disagree - that means you'll no longer be able to trust what libvirt
> tells you about the VM, and libvirt won't have a guarenteed consistent
> view of the VM's state because things will be changed behind its back.
It is *not* the only purpose of the monitor to confuse libvirt. The
whole 'info <foo>' command family is very useful for development and
debugging purposes and it will not interfere at all with libvirt.
I can't stand your attitude to refuse any feature just because you fear
users might abuse it. That applies to almost any feature which makes
life easier for developers. Which in turn means using libvirt for
development is either a bit complicated or impossible.
cheers,
Gerd
--
http://kraxel.fedorapeople.org/xenner/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-22 7:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-21 16:27 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] merge some xen bits into qemu Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/13] Handle terminating signals Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 20:11 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <m2n.s.1KWGbo-001Nr9@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
2008-08-26 10:44 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 12:16 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-26 12:36 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 12:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-26 17:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-26 13:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-26 13:38 ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 14:52 ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-26 17:49 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-26 15:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-26 15:08 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 15:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-26 15:28 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 15:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-26 17:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-26 18:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-26 18:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-27 9:46 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-27 16:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-27 16:35 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-27 17:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-27 18:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-28 9:34 ` Ian Jackson
2008-09-07 2:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-26 15:36 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-08-26 15:21 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <m2n.s.1KXzwZ-002RA9@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
2008-08-26 15:23 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 15:29 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <m2n.s.1KY0XT-002RJM@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
2008-08-26 15:38 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 16:12 ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-26 16:14 ` Julian Seward
2008-08-26 16:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-27 8:05 ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-27 8:49 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-27 9:10 ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-27 9:16 ` Keir Fraser
2008-08-27 9:12 ` Gleb Natapov
[not found] ` <m2n.s.1KXz4u-002Qvq@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
2008-08-26 14:55 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/13] add DisplayState->idle Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 16:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Samuel Thibault
2008-08-21 20:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/13] add container_of() macro to osdep.h Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 20:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/13] move GUI_REFRESH_INTERVAL define from vl.c to console.h Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 20:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] xen: groundwork for xen support Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 20:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13] xen: backend driver core Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/13] xen: add console backend driver Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] xen: add framebuffer " Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/13] xen: add block device " Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/13] xen: add net " Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/13] xen: blk & nic configuration via cmd line Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/13] set vnc password from xenstore Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 20:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-21 20:19 ` [Xen-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-21 20:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-21 20:26 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-21 21:34 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-21 21:48 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-21 22:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-24 9:03 ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-22 7:04 ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2008-08-22 19:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-22 19:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-21 22:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-08-22 8:27 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-24 8:57 ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-24 9:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-24 10:07 ` Avi Kivity
2008-08-24 12:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-21 20:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-21 21:29 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-26 10:13 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-21 20:17 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [Xen-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-21 21:25 ` Gerd Hoffmann
[not found] ` <m2n.s.1KWHfl-001Ntw@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
2008-08-26 10:47 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-21 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] xen: pv domain builder Gerd Hoffmann
[not found] ` <m2n.s.1KWDD7-002TB9@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
2008-08-26 10:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] xen: groundwork for xen support Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 12:34 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-26 12:57 ` [Xen-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-26 13:20 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-26 13:23 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-26 13:33 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 14:14 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-26 14:31 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-26 14:40 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-26 14:49 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-26 14:53 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-26 19:24 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-26 14:53 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-27 8:51 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-27 9:53 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-27 9:56 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-27 10:00 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-27 10:23 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-27 10:37 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-27 10:44 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-27 11:01 ` Gerd Hoffmann
[not found] ` <m2n.s.1KXzR5-002R2A@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
2008-08-26 15:05 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 15:09 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-08-26 13:24 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 13:50 ` Daniel P. Berrange
[not found] ` <m2n.s.1KWDfC-002TCd@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
[not found] ` <m2n.s.1KWDGv-002TBJ@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
[not found] ` <m2n.s.1KWDEt-002TBA@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
2008-08-26 10:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] xen: pv domain builder Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 10:50 ` [Xen-devel] " Samuel Thibault
2008-08-26 13:43 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 21:00 ` Markus Armbruster
2008-08-26 12:55 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-26 13:14 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 13:53 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-26 14:19 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 20:00 ` [Xen-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2008-08-27 9:48 ` Ian Jackson
2008-08-26 13:56 ` Gerd Hoffmann
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