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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@gmail.com>,
	kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/3] Add KVM support to QEMU
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:39:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4908599D.8030502@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081029123523.GG4269@poweredge.glommer>

Glauber Costa wrote:
>>> Another place "hook" is updating a slot's dirty bitmap.  Right now,  
>>> with my patchset we don't have live migration or the VGA RAM  
>>> optimization.  There's nothing about the VGA RAM optimization that  
>>> wouldn't work for QEMU.  I'm not sure that it really is an  
>>> optimization in the context of TCG, but I certainly don't think it's  
>>> any worse.  The only thing you really need is to query the KVM dirty  
>>> bitmap when it comes time to enable start over querying the VGA dirty  
>>> bits.
>>>       
>> I don't understand this.  The VGA optimization really is qemu's, the kvm  
>> modifications only cater to the different way of getting the dirty bits.
>>     
>
> As it seems to me, the real difference is that qemu has to explicitly set
> certain regions as dirty, while kvm get dirty bit "automatically" from the kernel.
>
>   

I'm completely lost.  I don't see how one or the other is more or less 
automatic, or how qemu has to explicitly set regions as dirty (except 
when emulating bitblt).

> So I believe we can have markers on the code to refresh dirty bitmap for certain
> area ranges (for kvm use), and also enable a manual override (for qemu). After that,
> the cpu_physical_memory_get_dirty() will simply return whether or not the page is
> dirty.
>   

Does not cpu_p_m_g_dirty() simply return whether or not the page is 
dirty now?

> Also, kvm only tracks "dirty" bits, whereas qemu has at least three kinds of them.
> But I think for now we can assume that kvm's dirty mean "all dirty

kvm's dirty bits mean that kvm has seen the page written to since the 
last query.  A zero doesn't mean the page is clean though -- it could 
have been written to by qemu.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-29 12:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-28 20:13 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] Add additional CPU flag definitions Anthony Liguori
2008-10-28 20:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] Split CPUID from op_helper Anthony Liguori
2008-10-28 20:13   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] Add KVM support to QEMU Anthony Liguori
2008-10-28 20:49     ` Hollis Blanchard
2008-10-28 21:10       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-28 20:57     ` Andreas Färber
2008-10-28 21:04       ` Glauber Costa
2008-10-28 21:16         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-28 21:05       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-04 13:25         ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-28 21:41     ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2008-10-28 21:51       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-28 23:04         ` Glauber Costa
2008-10-28 23:36           ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-29  9:54             ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 12:35               ` Glauber Costa
2008-10-29 12:39                 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-10-29 12:56                   ` Glauber Costa
2008-10-29 13:07               ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-29 13:23                 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 13:32                   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-29 13:51             ` Hollis Blanchard
2008-10-29 14:09               ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-29 14:16                 ` Fabrice Bellard
2008-10-29 14:23                   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-10-29 19:13                 ` Blue Swirl
2008-11-01 16:25                   ` Blue Swirl
2008-10-29 14:58     ` Glauber Costa
2008-10-29 17:41     ` Glauber Costa
2008-10-29 19:01       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-04 13:24     ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-04 14:02       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-04 14:46         ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-04 14:50           ` Anthony Liguori

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