From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@qumranet.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/1] pci-dma-api-v2
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:37:58 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <493412E6.9020308@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4933B13C.6070205@redhat.com>
Avi Kivity wrote:
> Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>
>> I think you need something more sophisticated that can split up a
>> scatter/gather list into a set of partial bounce buffers and partial
>> direct copies. Just checking the vector once is a bit hackish.
>>
>
> That code path would never be used or tested. As it is, bouncing will
> only be invoked by dma to or from mmio, and I expect most guests never
> to invoke it. Why would we complicate the code even more?
I'm not sure it's strictly required but I think it would be a
simplificaction.
>>
>> What should be fixed? Are these emulated functions wrong?
>>
>> There's a lack of symmetry here. We should have a bdrv_readv and
>> bdrv_aio_readv. bdrv_read and bdrv_aio_read should disappear. We
>> can maintain wrappers that create a compatible interface for older
>> code but just adding a new API is wrong.
>>
>
> It was understood a real aio readv/writev was being worked on, so the
> emulation could be a temporary step.
Yes, but that's orthogonal to what I'm saying here. I'm saying that
instead of adding an optional ->aio_readv() member, we should eliminate
the ->aio_read() member and replace it with ->aio_readv(). There are
only three or four places in the code that implement aio so it's not a
big change. It avoids introducing a new API too.
I also think we should have complimentary synchronous vector functions
although I'd like to see the synchronous API disappear completely.
>>> +BlockDriverAIOCB *bdrv_aio_readv(BlockDriverState *bs, int64_t
>>> sector_num,
>>> + struct iovec *iov, int iovcnt, size_t len,
>>> + BlockDriverCompletionFunc *cb, void *opaque)
>>> +{
>>>
>>
>> struct iovec does not exist on Windows. I also don't think you've
>> got the abstraction right. Reading and writing may require actions
>> to happen. I don't think you can just introduce something as simple
>> as an iovec here. I think we need something more active.
>>
>
> Can you elaborate? Actions happen in the completion callback. This
> is just an straightforward extension of the block API, I don't think a
> dma api should materially change the block api.
If we're not going to try and fold in the IOMMU/PCI BUS API at this
pass, then this is less important. But to implement a proper PCI bus
API, I think there has to be function pointers associated with each
element of the scatter/gather list that control how data is copied in
and out of each element.
>>
>> I think you missed the mark here. This API needs to go through the
>> PCIBus and be pluggable at that level. There can be a default
>> implementation but it may differ for each PCI bus.
>>
>
> I think this can serve as the default implementation. Perhaps when a
> concrete user of pluggable dma emerges we can understand the
> requirements better.
I think if we drop the pci_ prefixes and just treat it as a basic DMA
API as Blue Swirl suggested, then this is closer to what we need.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-01 16:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-27 12:35 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/2] pci-dma-api-v1 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-27 12:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 2/2] bdrv_aio_readv/writev_em Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-28 11:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-27 19:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/2] pci-dma-api-v1 Blue Swirl
2008-11-28 1:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-28 17:59 ` Blue Swirl
2008-11-28 18:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-28 19:03 ` Blue Swirl
2008-11-28 19:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-29 19:49 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-30 17:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-30 22:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-30 18:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-30 17:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/1] pci-dma-api-v2 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-30 18:36 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2008-11-30 19:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-30 19:11 ` Blue Swirl
2008-11-30 19:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-30 21:36 ` Blue Swirl
2008-11-30 22:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-30 22:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-12-01 9:41 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-01 16:37 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2008-12-02 9:45 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-30 22:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/2] pci-dma-api-v1 Anthony Liguori
2008-11-30 22:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-11-30 22:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-11-29 19:48 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-30 17:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-30 20:27 ` Avi Kivity
2008-11-30 22:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-11-30 22:33 ` Anthony Liguori
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