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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Replace posix-aio with custom thread pool
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:17:58 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4942AAD6.1090408@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081212175213.GP6809@random.random>

Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:25:55AM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>   
>> Hrm, that's more complex than I was expecting.  I was thinking the bdrv aio 
>> infrastructure would always take an iovec.  Any details about the 
>> underlying host's ability to handle the iovec would be insulated.
>>     
>
> You can't remove the restart memory-capped mechanism from the dma api,
> we've to handle dma to non-ram that potentially requires to copy the
> whole buffer so we're forced to have a safe linearization at the dma
> api layer. So it's not necessary to reinvent the same
> restart-partial-transfer logic in the aio layer too. Just set the
> define and teach the aio logic to use pread/pwrite if iovcnt == 1 and
> you're done ;).
>
> So what I'm suggesting is simpler than what you were expecting, not
> more complex. It would be more complex to replicate the restart-bounce
> logic in the aio layer too.
>
> Old drivers using bdrv_aio_read/write will keep working, new drivers
> using dma api can also use bdrv_aio_readv/writev and the linearization
> will happen inside the dma api if aio misses preadv/pwritev support.
>   

You assume that anything using bdrv_aio_readv/writev will be going 
through a DMA API.  This isn't a safe assumption.

Furthermore, you need some way to communicate the fact that you cannot 
handle iovcnt > 1 iovecs in a performant/safe way.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-12 18:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-05 21:21 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Replace posix-aio with custom thread pool Anthony Liguori
2008-12-06  9:03 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-06 18:26   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-12-08 18:23   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-09 15:51 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-09 16:01   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-10 16:44     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-10 17:21       ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-10 17:29         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-10 18:50           ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-10 19:08             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-11 13:12               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-11 15:24                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-11 15:53                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-11 16:11                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-11 16:49                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-11 17:20                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-11 18:11                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-11 20:38                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-11 20:40                             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12  8:23                             ` Jens Axboe
2008-12-12 11:51                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 11:54                                 ` Jens Axboe
2008-12-12 14:13                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 14:24                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 16:33                                       ` Chris Wright
2008-12-12 16:51                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 16:52                                           ` Chris Wright
2008-12-11 21:32                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-12  0:27                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-11 21:30                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-12-11 16:41                   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 14:24               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 14:35                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 15:44                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 16:49                     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 17:09                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 17:25                         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 17:52                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 18:17                             ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2008-12-12 18:26                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 20:12                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-12 20:17                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 20:35                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-09 17:16   ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-17 14:44 ` Ian Jackson

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