From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
chrisw@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 2 of 5] add can_dma/post_dma for direct IO
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:48:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4944117C.6030404@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4943E68E.3030400@codemonkey.ws>
Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>
>> - DMA into mmio regions; this requires bouncing
>
> The map() API I proposed above should do bouncing to MMIO regions. To
> deal with unbounded allocation, you can simply fail when the mapping
> allocation has reached some high limit. Calling code needs to cope
> with the fact that map'ing may succeed or fail.
There are N users of this code, all of which would need to cope with the
failure. Or there could be one user (dma.c) which handles the failure
and the bouncing.
dma.c _is_ a map/unmap api, except it doesn't expose the mapped data,
which allows it to control scheduling as well as be easier to use.
>
>> - DMA with an associated transform (xor, byteswap); also requires
>> bouncing
>
> At this layer of the API, this is unnecessary. At the PCI layer, you
> would need to handle this and I'd suggest taking the same approach as
> above.
I agree to _map()/_unmap(), but it's not a solution by itself.
>
>> In turn, bouncing requires splitting large requests to avoid
>> unbounded memory allocation.
>>
>> While I think _map/_unmap is an improvement over can_dma(), this API
>> can't handle bounded bouncing, and so a separate layer (dma.c) is
>> still necessary.
>
> I think it can handled bounded bouncing fine. It's a matter of
> ensuring the bounce buffer max is sufficiently large and ensuring that
> any client code can cope with map failures. In fact, there probably
> needs to be a notifiers API that is invoked whenever an unmap()
> happens so that if an asynchronous request is waiting because of a map
> failure, it can be notified as to when it should try again.
Right, but who would it notify?
We need some place that can deal with this, and it isn't
_map()/_unmap(), and it isn't ide.c or scsi.c.
--
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-13 19:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-12 18:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0 of 5] dma api v3 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 18:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1 of 5] fix cpu_physical_memory len Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 19:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 19:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 18:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2 of 5] add can_dma/post_dma for direct IO Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 19:00 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-12 19:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 20:05 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-12 20:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 19:15 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 19:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 20:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 20:25 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-12 19:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-13 9:22 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-13 16:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-13 19:48 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2008-12-13 21:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-14 6:03 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-14 19:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-14 19:49 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-14 23:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15 0:57 ` Paul Brook
2008-12-15 2:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15 6:23 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-15 18:35 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-15 22:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-16 9:41 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-16 16:55 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-16 17:09 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-16 17:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-16 18:11 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-16 15:57 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-16 16:29 ` Paul Brook
2008-12-16 16:35 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-14 17:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-12-13 14:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-13 16:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-13 16:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-13 17:54 ` Andreas Färber
2008-12-13 21:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-14 16:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-14 17:01 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-14 17:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-14 19:59 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-22 16:44 ` Ian Jackson
2008-12-22 19:44 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-23 0:03 ` Thiemo Seufer
2008-12-23 1:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-23 17:31 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-22 19:46 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-05 10:27 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-13 22:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-14 6:07 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-12 18:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3 of 5] rename dma.c to isa_dma.c Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 18:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4 of 5] dma api Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 18:55 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-12 18:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5 of 5] bdrv_aio_readv/writev Andrea Arcangeli
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