From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Vmchannel PCI device.
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:56:49 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49458F31.8040208@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081214221346.GA16902@redhat.com>
Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 01:15:42PM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
> One non-QEMU backend I can see being implemented is a DBus daemon,
> providing a simple bus for RPC calls between guests & host.
The main problem with "external" backends is that they cannot easily
participate in save/restore or live migration. If you want to have an
RPC mechanism, I would suggest implementing the backend in QEMU and
hooking QEMU up to dbus. Then you can implement proper save/restore.
> Or on
> a similar theme, perhaps a QPid message broker in the host OS. Yet
> another backend is a clustering service providing a virtual fence
> device to VMs.
Why not use virtual networking for a clustering service (as you would in
real machines).
> All of these would live outside QEMU, and as such
> exposing the backend using the character device infrastructure
> is a natural fit.
>
If you don't have QEMU as a broker, it makes it very hard for QEMU to
virtualization all of the resources exposed to the guest. This
complicates things like save/restore and complicates security policies
since you now have things being done on behalf of a guest originating
from another process. It generally breaks the model of guest-as-a-process.
What's the argument to do these things external to QEMU?
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> Daniel
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-14 22:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-14 11:50 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Vmchannel PCI device Gleb Natapov
2008-12-14 12:28 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-14 13:12 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-12-14 19:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-14 19:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-12-14 22:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15 9:20 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-15 9:25 ` Dan Kenigsberg
2008-12-15 15:43 ` Dan Kenigsberg
2008-12-14 22:13 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-12-14 22:56 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2008-12-14 23:33 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-12-15 1:18 ` Thiemo Seufer
2008-12-15 2:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15 9:47 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-12-14 19:24 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-12-14 19:44 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-12-15 0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paul Brook
2008-12-15 1:50 ` Anthony Liguori
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