From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
chrisw@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 2 of 5] add can_dma/post_dma for direct IO
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:48:01 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4947E9D1.8060007@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4947E0D1.6060704@redhat.com>
Avi Kivity wrote:
> Blue Swirl wrote:
>>> I don't understand. It's not a device that needs bouncing, it's a
>>> particular transfer. This could be either due to the transfer
>>> targeting
>>> mmio, or due to the transfer requiring a transformation.
>>>
>>
>> Should the bouncing be something more much complex, for example
>> negotiated between the devices? Or maybe the devices set up a
>> transforming and non-transforming channel (which the other end should
>> be able to transform some more) and use them as needed?
>>
>
> Yes. We already have two cases:
>
> - may do partial request: useful for block storage where requests can
> be huge
> - need full request: networking, where you can't send or receive half
> a packet; on the other hand, packets are small (even with tso)
>
> You're adding a third case, always bounce, when the data undergoes a
> transformation which can't happen in-place.
IMHO, IOMMU translation is distinct from mapping/data transformation. I
would think the IOMMU translation API would be different in that it took
a physical address and returned a physical address.
The IOMMU DMA API (which could transform data potentially) should return
a virtual address and data a physical address. In the normal case
(non-transforming IOMMU), it should just fall-through to CPU DMA API
(which is just map/unmap).
The PCI DMA API would normally fall through to the IOMMU DMA API.
So we would have:
PCI DMA map(addr):
if IOMMU:
return IOMMU DMA map(addr)
return CPU DMA map(addr)
IOMMU DMA map(addr):
new_address = IOMMU translate(addr)
if transform:
return IOMMU byte-swap map(addr)
return CPU DMA map(addr)
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-16 17:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-12 18:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0 of 5] dma api v3 Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 18:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1 of 5] fix cpu_physical_memory len Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 19:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 19:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 18:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2 of 5] add can_dma/post_dma for direct IO Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 19:00 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-12 19:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 20:05 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-12 20:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 19:15 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 19:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 20:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-12 20:25 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-12 19:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-13 9:22 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-13 16:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-13 19:48 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-13 21:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-14 6:03 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-14 19:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-14 19:49 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-14 23:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15 0:57 ` Paul Brook
2008-12-15 2:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-15 6:23 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-15 18:35 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-15 22:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-16 9:41 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-16 16:55 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-16 17:09 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-16 17:48 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2008-12-16 18:11 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-16 15:57 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-16 16:29 ` Paul Brook
2008-12-16 16:35 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-14 17:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-12-13 14:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-13 16:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-13 16:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-13 17:54 ` Andreas Färber
2008-12-13 21:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-14 16:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-14 17:01 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-14 17:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-14 19:59 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-22 16:44 ` Ian Jackson
2008-12-22 19:44 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-23 0:03 ` Thiemo Seufer
2008-12-23 1:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-23 17:31 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-22 19:46 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-05 10:27 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-12-13 22:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-14 6:07 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-12 18:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3 of 5] rename dma.c to isa_dma.c Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 18:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4 of 5] dma api Andrea Arcangeli
2008-12-12 18:55 ` Blue Swirl
2008-12-12 18:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5 of 5] bdrv_aio_readv/writev Andrea Arcangeli
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