From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LFVgP-0004Pc-2z for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:30:01 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LFVgO-0004PP-QR for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:30:00 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37141 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LFVgO-0004PM-Jc for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:30:00 -0500 Received: from mail.sterilesecurity.com ([173.45.227.235]:49355) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LFVgO-0006uy-AX for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:30:00 -0500 Message-ID: <49525575.2070605@turnkeylinux.org> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:29:57 +0200 From: Liraz Siri MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Merging improvements from VirtualBox OSE into qemu? References: <49522F8D.4000203@turnkeylinux.org> <200812241336.01702.paul@codesourcery.com> <4952484F.6010406@turnkeylinux.org> <200812241502.04984.paul@codesourcery.com> In-Reply-To: <200812241502.04984.paul@codesourcery.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Paul Brook Cc: turnkey-discuss@lists.turnkeylinux.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org Paul Brook wrote: > Well, I'm not a great fan of kqemu to start with. I suspect it may end up > being removed sooner rather than later. Yeah, kqemu only seems to be useful for users that can't use KVM due to lack of hardware support. > Networking is not a qemu specific feature. The first thing you need to do is > convince the kernel folks that this is a useful feature, and get it > implemented there. Then we can make qemu use that interface. > What you've described sounds a lot like the pcap interface, which has its own > set of problems. > > If your main argument is "users are too dumb to configure a bridge" then > you're arguing from a fairly weak position. The answer tends to be that you > need to make your configuration tools suck less. Good point. Cheers, Liraz