From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: turnkey-discuss@lists.turnkeylinux.org,
Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Merging improvements from VirtualBox OSE into qemu?
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:40:56 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49525808.9080002@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4952484F.6010406@turnkeylinux.org>
Liraz Siri wrote:
> Paul Brook wrote:
>
>
>> You need root privileges to load the random kernel modules required to d this.
>> Not going to happen for qemu.
>>
>
> There's at least one counter-precedent. qemu takes advantage of kqemu
> which is also a "random kernel module". How would supporting a kernel
> module that simplified a bridged networking be any different?
>
I would object strongly to any new code in QEMU that was relying on a
kernel module that had no chance of making it upstream.
FWIW, we could simplify bridged networking in QEMU but it would require
root privileges or a setuid helper.
All someone has to do is write an /etc/qemu-ifup and /etc/qemu-ifdown
that create a bridged interface. I'd be happy to take patches to pass
additional parameters to the script. For instance, you could do:
-net tap,mode=bridging,if=eth0
And it could Just Work. /etc/qemu-ifup and /etc/qemu-ifdown would have
to be setuid helpers of course and they should enforce some sort of
group access control.
> Also, qemu seems to require root privileges to setup tap devices, so it
> wouldn't be a first.
>
It does, but there's no reason we could extend tap just a little bit so
that it got a file descriptor from the /etc/qemu-ifup script.
> BTW, we don't need this for our own use. We setup VDE + tap devices
> bridged to the network interface. Works great, at least for NICs that
> support bridging.
AFAIK, VDE doesn't actually get a tap file descriptor. Instead it sends
all traffic to a daemon for processing. This implies that performance
will never be as good as tap.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-24 15:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-24 12:48 [Qemu-devel] Merging improvements from VirtualBox OSE into qemu? Liraz Siri
2008-12-24 13:17 ` Samuel Thibault
2008-12-24 13:26 ` Alexey Eremenko
2008-12-24 13:31 ` Alexey Eremenko
2008-12-24 13:36 ` Paul Brook
2008-12-24 14:33 ` Liraz Siri
2008-12-24 14:51 ` Jernej Simončič
2008-12-24 15:02 ` Paul Brook
2008-12-24 15:29 ` Liraz Siri
2008-12-24 15:40 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2008-12-24 20:52 ` Liraz Siri
[not found] ` <E71DFB2B-0B73-46AE-B423-0BF605A9D679@hotmail.com>
2008-12-25 4:37 ` C.W. Betts
2008-12-25 7:06 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-25 7:07 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-25 7:08 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-25 14:51 ` Liraz Siri
2008-12-25 16:14 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-24 23:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-12-25 7:11 ` Avi Kivity
2008-12-24 15:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-12-24 20:21 ` Liraz Siri
2008-12-24 20:55 ` Liraz Siri
2009-01-05 21:12 ` Frank Mehnert
2009-01-05 22:03 ` Stefan Weil
2009-01-05 23:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-06 7:41 ` Frank Mehnert
2009-01-06 15:46 ` Blue Swirl
2009-01-06 17:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-06 20:40 ` Frank Mehnert
2009-01-06 22:17 ` Jamie Lokier
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