From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 1/5] Add target memory mapping API
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:46:51 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4978BF1B.9070400@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18808.25646.904302.912481@mariner.uk.xensource.com>
Ian Jackson wrote:
> Anthony Liguori writes ("Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 1/5] Add target memory mapping API"):
>
>
>>> The second criticism is a matter of taste, perhaps, and the third can
>>> be addressed later:
>>>
>>> * The mixed call/callback API: [...]
>>>
>>> Callbacks are increasingly dominating the innards of qemu for good
>>> reasons. I think I have explained how a callback style can provide
>>> the necessary functionality.
>>>
>> I understand the point you make here and I think we'll end up having a
>> callback API. But for reasons I've already mentioned, I don't think it
>> makes sense for it to be the core API since it introduces very difficult
>> to eliminate deadlocks.
>>
>
> I think my most recently sketched-out proposal (where the caller
> passes a DMA sg list to the mapping request function) doesn't have
> these deadlocks ?
>
But what do you do with a DMA request that cannot possibly be bounced
but that can be split? In other words, a DMA request to 1G of MMIO
memory that is disk access. We can absolutely split that into multiple
requests.
> It seems to me that the way to avoid the deadlock is to allow the
> caller to make their whole request at once rather than having two
> callers both racing to grab resources.
>
In practice, you can't rely on being able to allocate enough memory in
the host to complete a full request. This is only true for very special
devices. You definitely need to support two distinct modes.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> Regards,
> Ian.
>
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-22 18:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-18 19:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] Direct memory access for devices Avi Kivity
2009-01-18 19:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] Add target memory mapping API Avi Kivity
2009-01-19 13:49 ` Ian Jackson
2009-01-19 14:54 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-19 15:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-19 16:18 ` Paul Brook
2009-01-19 16:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-19 16:39 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-19 19:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-20 10:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-19 16:57 ` Ian Jackson
2009-01-19 19:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-20 10:17 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-20 14:18 ` Ian Jackson
2009-01-19 16:40 ` Ian Jackson
2009-01-19 17:28 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-19 17:53 ` Ian Jackson
2009-01-19 18:29 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-20 14:32 ` Ian Jackson
2009-01-20 17:23 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-19 18:25 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-19 18:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-20 14:49 ` Ian Jackson
2009-01-20 17:42 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-20 18:08 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-20 20:27 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-21 16:53 ` Ian Jackson
2009-01-21 16:50 ` Ian Jackson
2009-01-21 17:18 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-21 21:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-20 14:44 ` Ian Jackson
2009-01-21 12:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Mike Day
2009-01-21 12:18 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-19 15:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-01-19 15:23 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-19 15:29 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-19 15:57 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-01-19 16:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-19 17:08 ` Ian Jackson
2009-01-19 17:16 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-19 14:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-01-19 15:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-19 15:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-19 15:51 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-20 18:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-21 17:09 ` Ian Jackson
2009-01-21 18:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Mike Day
2009-01-21 19:35 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-21 19:36 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 1/5] " Anthony Liguori
2009-01-22 12:18 ` Ian Jackson
2009-01-22 18:46 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-01-26 12:23 ` Ian Jackson
2009-01-26 18:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-01-21 11:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Mike Day
2009-01-21 12:17 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-21 17:37 ` Paul Brook
2009-01-18 19:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] Add map client retry notification Avi Kivity
2009-01-19 14:58 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-01-18 19:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] Vectored block device API Avi Kivity
2009-01-19 16:54 ` Blue Swirl
2009-01-19 17:19 ` Avi Kivity
2009-01-18 19:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] I/O vector helpers Avi Kivity
2009-01-18 19:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] Convert IDE to directly access guest memory Avi Kivity
2009-01-19 16:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] Direct memory access for devices Blue Swirl
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