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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 1/4] Add a scatter-gather list type and accessors
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:25:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <498A9463.3000002@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200902042358.13955.paul@codesourcery.com>

Paul Brook wrote:
> I disagree about "Linux is fairly useless without overcommit". Certain common 
> linux applications maybe, however...
>   

qemu is one.  The use of fork() to run scripts means qemu's memory 
commit can double, even though in practice this memory will not be used.

I've tried running with strict overcommit control once, the desktop 
crashed left and right even after adding ridiculous amounts of swap.

>> Other ways of allocating memory (stack growth, first access to anonymous
>> memory) are not covered.  They can fail (most ungracefully) without
>> strict overcommit control.
>>
>> So I suggest to have qemu_malloc() and its friends abort on failure.
>>     
>
> I'll support this.  In theory it's sometimes possible to recover from Out Of 
> Memory conditions. However in practice I don't think there's any real scope 
> for this in qemu.  If were allocating huge chunks of ram on the fly then 
> something else is already badly wrong.
>
> IMHO pushing the error up (down?) the callchain is unlikely to provide the 
> user with significantly better information, we may as well bail out in 
> qemu_malloc.
>   

I'll post a patch.

-- 
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-05  7:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-04 12:25 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] Block DMA helpers Avi Kivity
2009-02-04 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] Add a scatter-gather list type and accessors Avi Kivity
2009-02-04 19:27   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-02-04 20:30     ` Avi Kivity
2009-02-04 20:36       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-02-04 20:46         ` Avi Kivity
2009-02-04 20:50           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-02-04 21:03             ` Avi Kivity
2009-02-04 23:58           ` Paul Brook
2009-02-05  7:25             ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-02-05  0:29         ` M. Warner Losh
2009-02-05  1:56           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-02-04 23:49     ` Paul Brook
2009-02-04 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] Add qemu_iovec_reset() Avi Kivity
2009-02-04 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] Introduce block dma helpers Avi Kivity
2009-02-04 19:29   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-02-04 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] Convert IDE to use new " Avi Kivity

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