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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Revert block-qcow2.c to kvm-72 version due to corruption reports
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:55:11 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <499A270F.4090205@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090217005244.GD20713@shareable.org>

Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Anthony Liguori wrote:
>   
>>>> And let's be clear, your data is *not* safe with qcow2.  So I don't 
>>>> consider this to be a show stopping issue.
>>>>         
>>> I beg your pardon?  The one format that was recommended for quite a long 
>>> time now is considered unsafe?
>>>       
>> It's always been that way.  It's unsafe for a number of reasons that 
>> have been discussed at great length.
>>     
>
> It sure isn't mentioned in the documentation.
> If it was, I would never have used it, and I imagine I'm not alone.
>
> QEMU might be an emulator project where people expect quirks, but KVM
> and Xen are professional virtualisation platforms competing with
> VMware.
>
> It is really not very professional that the documentation places "your
> data is not safe" formats on an equal footing with safe formats -
> without saying anything about it - and doesn't even recommend one or
> the other.
>   

Please submit patches.  I don't disagree with you and that is why I'm 
trying to make this clear now.

> That said, maybe Microsoft is doing the same thing - their
> documentation happily recommends their VHD format if you're not
> concerned about running out of disk space, and it's maybe VHD has
> similar corruption windows.
>   

Yeah, it's hard to make a truly reliable format that isn't raw.  It 
basically is the same problem file systems solve and requires either a 
journal or an fsck step.  I'm thinking that this is a problem for other 
software too.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> -- Jamie
>
>
>   

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-17  2:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-03 20:48 [Qemu-devel] Cutting a new QEMU release Anthony Liguori
2009-02-03 20:58 ` Glauber Costa
2009-02-03 21:35   ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-02-03 21:50     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-02-03 22:05       ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-02-03 22:47         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-02-03 23:48           ` Glauber Costa
2009-02-04 13:09       ` Ulrich Hecht
2009-02-04  0:31     ` David Turner
     [not found]     ` <74222928-D24B-4780-BDB0-D537A83C4F68@hotmail.com>
2009-02-04  5:08       ` C.W. Betts
2009-02-03 21:48 ` Rick Vernam
2009-02-03 22:07 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-02-04 14:50 ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-02-04 15:23   ` Tristan Gingold
2009-02-04 15:43     ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-02-04 16:01       ` Tristan Gingold
2009-02-04 18:17         ` [Qemu-devel] " Consul
2009-02-04 17:39   ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2009-02-04 17:50     ` Jonathan Kalbfeld
2009-02-04 20:07   ` Blue Swirl
2009-02-07 14:15   ` Stuart Brady
2009-02-04 15:58 ` Glauber Costa
2009-02-07 15:29 ` Shin-ichiro KAWASAKI
2009-02-11 21:49   ` Rob Landley
2009-02-12 14:44     ` Shin-ichiro KAWASAKI
2009-02-12 21:08       ` Rob Landley
2009-02-12 21:44       ` Rob Landley
2009-02-09 12:43 ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-02-09 21:36   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-02-10  0:47   ` Rob Landley
2009-02-10  7:22     ` M. Warner Losh
2009-02-13  8:40 ` Riku Voipio
2009-02-13  9:59   ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-02-13 16:30   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-02-13 17:00     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-02-13 19:04       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Revert block-qcow2.c to kvm-72 version due to corruption reports Jamie Lokier
2009-02-14 22:23         ` Dor Laor
2009-02-15  2:20           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-02-14 23:13         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-02-15  2:01           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-02-15  4:09             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-02-15 15:42               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-02-15 18:19                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-02-15 18:34                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-02-16  1:01                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-02-17  0:52                       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-02-17  2:55                         ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-02-16  1:19                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-02-17  1:01                   ` Jamie Lokier

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