From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: libvir-list@redhat.com, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Hollis Blanchard <hollisb@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] Allow multiple monitor devices (v2)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 08:47:08 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49DDFC5C.4080504@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49DDFAD5.7060808@redhat.com>
Avi Kivity wrote:
> hotplug disk
> -ENOSPC on disk
>
> It's true that events don't correlate directly to commands, but they
> do correlate to the state of the system and that is affected by commands.
events are time stamped. In non-human mode, I think command responses
should be time stamped too so that a management tool knows when the
event was generated and can correlate the system state to the particular
event.
>>> Sure, we'll need to make sure notifications don't mix with command
>>> responses, and that all commands are acked (the (qemu) prompt serves
>>> that purpose now), but it seems to me do be a lot easier for the
>>> management end.
>>
>> FWIW, you can have asynchronous completion of monitor commands. See
>> migration as an example. The (qemu) prompt is the ack that the
>> command is finished. You can only have one async command per monitor
>> session which is why you need multiple monitors.
>
> Migration has the -d switch to be truly async (not to wait). We need
> an async notifier to tell us migration has finished or failed.
Multiplexing multiple monitor sessions AFAICT is going to require a
non-human mode. But it's totally orthogonal to this patch set. You
could implement it today if you wanted.
>>
>> If we had a non-human monitor mode, I think it would be fine to have
>> many monitors multiplexed over a single channel. The internal
>> monitor abstraction doesn't change.
>
> I don't understand why we need to multiplex many monitors over one
> channel. Let's keep one monitor, but with the ability to send
> notifications to the other end.
I don't understand how you think it would be implemented. Each command
is going to have a unique 'Monitor *' associated with it. How that ends
up being displayed to the user/management tool is irrelevant. Right
now, you can only have one 'Monitor *' active on a single "channel" at a
time. This is mostly a matter of output format. I don't see how we can
keep the monitor output consistent and compatible as it stands today and
still support multiple 'Monitor *'s active in a single channel.
--
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-09 13:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-08 18:34 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] Allow multiple monitor devices (v2) Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 18:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/6] Introduce monitor 'wait' command (v2) Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 18:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] Introduce wait filtering (v2) Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 18:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/6] Document new events (v2) Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 18:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/6] Implement vm-state notifications (v2) Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 18:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/6] Implement vnc-event " Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 18:43 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 2/6] Introduce monitor 'wait' command (v2) Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 19:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2009-04-08 19:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 11:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 13:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 13:58 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 14:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-09 8:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] Allow multiple monitor devices (v2) Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 13:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 13:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 13:47 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-04-09 14:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 14:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 14:28 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 14:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 14:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 14:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 15:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 15:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 15:57 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 16:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 16:30 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 16:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 17:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 17:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-11 16:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-11 20:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-11 21:14 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-12 18:42 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-14 8:30 ` [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2009-04-14 9:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-14 9:17 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-04-14 9:29 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-14 9:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-14 9:38 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-14 18:21 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-14 18:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-16 9:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-11 23:16 ` Zachary Amsden
2009-04-12 8:23 ` Zachary Amsden
2009-04-14 8:28 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-14 18:20 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-11 19:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-11 21:47 ` Andreas Färber
2009-04-12 18:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-09 16:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-09 14:15 ` [libvirt] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-09 14:19 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 14:56 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-09 15:15 ` François Revol
2009-04-09 15:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 15:49 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-09 16:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 16:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-05-11 20:54 ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-05-11 21:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-12 8:48 ` Avi Kivity
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