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From: Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner <maxbr@linux.ibm.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Filip Hejsek" <filip.hejsek@gmail.com>
Cc: amit@kernel.org, armbru@redhat.com, eblake@redhat.com,
	eduardo@habkost.net, lvivier@redhat.com,
	marcandre.lureau@redhat.com, marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com,
	mst@redhat.com, noh4hss@gmail.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	philmd@linaro.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, wangyanan55@huawei.com,
	zhao1.liu@intel.com, nsg@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] char-pty: add support for the terminal size
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 09:53:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49e6a105914fe0dd3b3476c1bceaf2c7d1f92824.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aMq4Ta4aPwRgDrxR@redhat.com>

On Wed, 2025-09-17 at 14:31 +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 03:09:50PM +0200, Filip Hejsek wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On September 17, 2025 11:39:55 AM GMT+02:00, Maximilian Immanuel
> > Brandtner <maxbr@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2025-09-16 at 00:02 +0200, Filip Hejsek wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2025-09-15 at 18:34 +0200, Maximilian Immanuel
> > > > Brandtner
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Update the terminal size upon SIGWINCH delivery.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner
> > > > > <maxbr@linux.ibm.com>
> > > > 
> > > > I don't think this will work, because SIGWINCH is only
> > > > delivered for
> > > > the process' controling terminal. Unfortunately I don't think
> > > > there
> > > > is
> > > > any way to get size notifications for arbitrary terminal.
> > > 
> > > In that case there are two solutions:
> > > 1. make qemu the controlling process of the pty (this has the
> > > disadvantage of QEMU being quit when the pty is closed)
> > 
> > A bigger disadvantage is that a process can only have one
> > controlling terminal, and a terminal can only be the controlling
> > terminal for a single session (and only sends signals to the
> > foreground process group of that session). It would require forking
> > a process for each pty, and I don't even know if the master end can
> > have its own session.
> > 
> > > 2. create a timer polling every eg 100ms to check if the winsize
> > > has
> > > changed
> > > 
> > > I would go with the second approach then
> > 
> > Me too, the timer is a bit unfortunate, but it's probably the less
> > bad option.
> 
> I don't think we want a timer polling for an situation that will very
> rarely arise.  We already add the 'chardev_resize' QMP command, which
> is
> a good enough way to kick QEMU to re-read the size.
> 
> With regards,
> Daniel

This approach would only work with libvirt and not generic pty
applications though. Perhaps a bool poll_resize could be added to the
struct Chardev which is disabled, as soon as the chardev_resize QMP
command is used to avoid race conditions.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-18  7:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-12  3:39 [PATCH v4 00/10] virtio-console: notify about the terminal size Filip Hejsek
2025-09-12  3:39 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] chardev: add cols, rows fields Filip Hejsek
2025-09-12  3:39 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] chardev: add CHR_EVENT_RESIZE Filip Hejsek
2025-09-12  3:39 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] chardev: add qemu_chr_resize() Filip Hejsek
2025-09-18  8:45   ` Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner
2025-09-18  9:31     ` Filip Hejsek
2025-09-12  3:39 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] char-mux: add support for the terminal size Filip Hejsek
2025-09-18  8:32   ` Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner
2025-09-18  9:11     ` Filip Hejsek
2025-09-12  3:39 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] main-loop: change the handling of SIGWINCH Filip Hejsek
2025-09-12  3:39 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] char-stdio: add support for the terminal size Filip Hejsek
2025-09-12  3:39 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] qmp: add chardev-resize command Filip Hejsek
2025-09-12 14:01   ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-12 18:10     ` Filip Hejsek
2025-09-15  6:35       ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-15 22:22         ` Filip Hejsek
2025-09-16 13:07           ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-16 17:01             ` Filip Hejsek
2025-09-17  8:25               ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-12  3:39 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] virtio-serial-bus: add terminal resize messages Filip Hejsek
2025-09-12 13:50   ` Markus Armbruster
2025-09-12 15:02     ` Filip Hejsek
2025-09-18  8:23   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-18  8:51     ` Filip Hejsek
2025-09-12  3:39 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] virtio-console: notify the guest about terminal resizes Filip Hejsek
2025-09-12  3:39 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] char-win-stdio: add support for terminal size Filip Hejsek
2025-09-12  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 00/10] virtio-console: notify about the " Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-09-12  8:44   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-09-12  8:50   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-12  8:54     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-09-15  8:41     ` Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner
2025-09-15  8:44       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-15 16:25         ` [PATCH] char-pty: add support for " Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner
2025-09-15 16:34           ` [PATCH v2] " Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner
2025-09-15 16:36             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-09-15 22:02             ` Filip Hejsek
2025-09-17  9:39               ` Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner
2025-09-17 13:09                 ` Filip Hejsek
2025-09-17 13:31                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-17 14:08                     ` Filip Hejsek
2025-09-17 16:17                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-17 17:11                         ` Filip Hejsek
2025-09-17 17:53                           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-17 18:29                             ` Filip Hejsek
2025-09-18  8:35                               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-18  8:39                                 ` Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner
2025-09-18  8:48                                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-18  8:54                                     ` Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner
2025-09-18  8:59                                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-09-18  9:05                                         ` Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner
2025-09-18 19:21                                           ` Filip Hejsek
2025-09-18  7:53                     ` Maximilian Immanuel Brandtner [this message]
2025-09-18  8:10                       ` Filip Hejsek
2025-09-12 14:24   ` [PATCH v4 00/10] virtio-console: notify about " Filip Hejsek
2025-09-15 23:02 ` Filip Hejsek
2025-09-15 23:08   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-09-17 18:32     ` Filip Hejsek

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